Posted on Aug 13, 2015
Connecticut Rules Death Penalty Is Unconstitutional. How Do You Feel About The Death Penalty?
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The Connecticut Supreme Court on Thursday ruled the state's death penalty is unconstitutional. The deeply divided court's 4-3 ruling will affect the 11 inmates currently on the state's death row.
Lawmakers repealed the state's death penalty in 2012, but stipulated it only applied to future crimes. Plaintiffs in Thursday's case had argued the 2012 ban should also extend to prisoners already on death row.
The Supreme Court agreed to take up the law's prospective issue when it granted a request by Eduardo Santiago, whose death sentence was overturned two months after the repeal took effect. (Connecticut Department of Corrections)
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/08/13/death-penalty-connecticut_n_7983488.html
Lawmakers repealed the state's death penalty in 2012, but stipulated it only applied to future crimes. Plaintiffs in Thursday's case had argued the 2012 ban should also extend to prisoners already on death row.
The Supreme Court agreed to take up the law's prospective issue when it granted a request by Eduardo Santiago, whose death sentence was overturned two months after the repeal took effect. (Connecticut Department of Corrections)
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/08/13/death-penalty-connecticut_n_7983488.html
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SSG Eddye Royal
I believe in the death penalty for this reason, I was on AD in FT. Hood, Tx. July/ August 1991 when they had the Lubby’s killer. Me and a friend, another soldier from 1st CAV almost went in there to eat.
I will never forget that, the people lost there lives just to sit and eat for lunch. Now we “COUNTRY” is lock in a LEGAL or LEGISLATIVE Igbo with NRA, that show not be. I say where is the common sense to this, we should be able to say if you are deamed sain, then Government has the right to take life. I also look to the Bible.
I will never forget that, the people lost there lives just to sit and eat for lunch. Now we “COUNTRY” is lock in a LEGAL or LEGISLATIVE Igbo with NRA, that show not be. I say where is the common sense to this, we should be able to say if you are deamed sain, then Government has the right to take life. I also look to the Bible.
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LTC Stephen C.
PVT Raymond Lopez, you may do as you wish, of course, but one of the RP protocols (official or unofficial, I don’t know) is to provide the person you downvoted with your rationale for so doing.
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Unless it is proven without a DOUBT that it was PRE MEDITATED murder....Other than this type of case...I don't think their should be a death penalty...
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I saw on the news tonight, Sgt Kelli Mays, the killer of those six kids and two adults "could be" facing life in prison. So, there ya go. He confessed, told them why he did it, and may get life in prison. What else could he get besides death? The laws are amazing to me how they justify their decisions. I thought sure, here in Texas, it would be automatically a death sentence.
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Sgt Kelli Mays
SGT (Join to see) - In this particular case...it may be ok to give this guy the death penalty.
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Sgt Kelli Mays, This guys time is up. He's a repeat felon, wife beater, rapist, etc. he never needs to be on the streets anymore or this will happen again.
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SSG Eddye Royal
I believe in the death penalty for this reason, I was on AD in FT. Hood, Tx. July/ August 1991 when they had the Lubby’s killer. Me and a friend, another soldier from 1st CAV almost went in there to eat.
I will never forget that, the people lost there lives just to sit and eat for lunch. Now we “COUNTRY” is lock in a LEGAL or LEGISLATIVE Igbo with NRA, that show not be. I say where is the common sense to this, we should be able to say if you are deamed sain, then Government has the right to take life. I also look to the Bible.
I will never forget that, the people lost there lives just to sit and eat for lunch. Now we “COUNTRY” is lock in a LEGAL or LEGISLATIVE Igbo with NRA, that show not be. I say where is the common sense to this, we should be able to say if you are deamed sain, then Government has the right to take life. I also look to the Bible.
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First, I don't believe that any thinking person can claim to have stood on one side of the debate over the death penalty or the other without ever wavering. I know that I have flip flopped on the issue over the years. Yes, it absolutely deters the executed person from ever committing a crime again. However, there is no clear evidence one way or the other as to whether is deters others from committing crimes. Yes, it is deserved, but only deserved by the person who committed the crime. Criminal justice is an imperfect art and many innocent people have been convicted regardless of the tenet that it is better for a guilty person to go free than for an innocent one to be punished. Yes, minorities are sentenced to execution far more frequently than white males, but to be fair, they are the ones committing violent crimes in proportion to their representation in the population.
Second, I can't believe that any law can be declared unconstitutional only for those convicted following a certain date. This is the most bass-ackwards application of the legal principal of ex post facto that I can imagine (Indeed, I'm not even sure if that is the correct principle - I'm that confused by the caveat they decided in the application of this ruling). If it's unconstitutional for thee, isn't it unconstitutional for me regardless of the facts in the case?
Sadly, it appears that this state's supreme court is as messed up as the federal Supreme Court...
Second, I can't believe that any law can be declared unconstitutional only for those convicted following a certain date. This is the most bass-ackwards application of the legal principal of ex post facto that I can imagine (Indeed, I'm not even sure if that is the correct principle - I'm that confused by the caveat they decided in the application of this ruling). If it's unconstitutional for thee, isn't it unconstitutional for me regardless of the facts in the case?
Sadly, it appears that this state's supreme court is as messed up as the federal Supreme Court...
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CPT Jack Durish, Sir, To me it totally depends on evidence, especially DNA. Unless the DNA is a fabrication, I would base my decision on that. If I for one second, thought something didn't add up during the trial, I wouldn't vote for death.
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Sgt Wayne Wood
CPT Jack Durish Yeah, i’ve seen cases where i had doubts. But our system is *SUPPOSED* to give the benefit of the doubt.
My issue is the politicization of it. Folks who’ll go against capital punishment for political reasons *REGARDLESS* of evidence in the case.
Then there is the moral aspect. If you are morally opposed you shouldn’t be on the jury in a capital case.
Vengeance is supposed to be exclusive province of God. But who decides what God may use as the instrument of his judgement? Certainly not me.
My issue is the politicization of it. Folks who’ll go against capital punishment for political reasons *REGARDLESS* of evidence in the case.
Then there is the moral aspect. If you are morally opposed you shouldn’t be on the jury in a capital case.
Vengeance is supposed to be exclusive province of God. But who decides what God may use as the instrument of his judgement? Certainly not me.
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SSG Eddye Royal
I believe in the death penalty for this reason, I was on AD in FT. Hood, Tx. July/ August 1991 when they had the Lubby’s killer. Me and a friend, another soldier from 1st CAV almost went in there to eat.
I will never forget that, the people lost there lives just to sit and eat for lunch. Now we “COUNTRY” is lock in a LEGAL or LEGISLATIVE Igbo with NRA, that show not be. I say where is the common sense to this, we should be able to say if you are deamed sain, then Government has the right to take life. I also look to the Bible.
I will never forget that, the people lost there lives just to sit and eat for lunch. Now we “COUNTRY” is lock in a LEGAL or LEGISLATIVE Igbo with NRA, that show not be. I say where is the common sense to this, we should be able to say if you are deamed sain, then Government has the right to take life. I also look to the Bible.
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In the Talmud, in tractate Sanhedrin (Aramaic for Courts) our rabbis ruled that a rabbinic court that ever executed someone is a murderous court.
In terms of American Jurisprudence, the death penalty process has become so convoluted that death row inmates are dying of old age or disease...
I would think that Life without Parole, in solitary, would be a suitable punishment. It's much less expensive than the death penalty, and it's much more difficult for the convict to endure. The death penalty is, in a way, an escape from hard time, and is really too good for some of these cons...
In terms of American Jurisprudence, the death penalty process has become so convoluted that death row inmates are dying of old age or disease...
I would think that Life without Parole, in solitary, would be a suitable punishment. It's much less expensive than the death penalty, and it's much more difficult for the convict to endure. The death penalty is, in a way, an escape from hard time, and is really too good for some of these cons...
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Mmm, I'm not real sure about that. Read this:
http://deathpenalty.procon.org/view.answers.php?questionID=001000
http://deathpenalty.procon.org/view.answers.php?questionID=001000
Does the Death Penalty Cost Less Than Life in Prison without Parole? - Death Penalty - ProCon.org...
Does the Death Penalty Cost Less Than Life in Prison without Parole? Read pros, cons, and expert responses in the debate.
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MSgt Brian Welch
Rabbi, we don't give them conditions that are hard to endure. Homeless people have more to endure than those with life sentences. We even strive to execute them by humane means. The real question to me is do we owe life to someone that commits a heinous crime, is void of all ability to coexist in civilized society, and is unreformable?
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All good questions, no doubt. I'm commenting on what I would do, not necessarily what society DOES...
The biggest reason to not execute people is that there have been people convicted of murder who were legitimately innocent. You can't undo the death penalty...
The biggest reason to not execute people is that there have been people convicted of murder who were legitimately innocent. You can't undo the death penalty...
SSG Eddye Royal
I believe in the death penalty for this reason, I was on AD in FT. Hood, Tx. July/ August 1991 when they had the Lubby’s killer. Me and a friend, another soldier from 1st CAV almost went in there to eat.
I will never forget that, the people lost there lives just to sit and eat for lunch. Now we “COUNTRY” is lock in a LEGAL or LEGISLATIVE Igbo with NRA, that show not be. I say where is the common sense to this, we should be able to say if you are deamed sain, then Government has the right to take life. I also look to the Bible.
I will never forget that, the people lost there lives just to sit and eat for lunch. Now we “COUNTRY” is lock in a LEGAL or LEGISLATIVE Igbo with NRA, that show not be. I say where is the common sense to this, we should be able to say if you are deamed sain, then Government has the right to take life. I also look to the Bible.
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The fact that the death penalty exits in some states indicates that community standards are a driving factor. If it was longer desired, it could be eliminated through redress by states legislators. In some states where it is desired, it exists. In some cases where it is desired, it is repealed by judicial review. No law is iron-clad so its up to law makes to produce laws that are relevant and legally dependable. I, for one, believe that it should be on the books for heinous crimes and used sparingly without countless appeals and rely on "iron clad" DNA.
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SSG Eddye Royal
I believe in the death penalty for this reason, I was on AD in FT. Hood, Tx. July/ August 1991 when they had the Lubby’s killer. Me and a friend, another soldier from 1st CAV almost went in there to eat.
I will never forget that, the people lost there lives just to sit and eat for lunch. Now we “COUNTRY” is lock in a LEGAL or LEGISLATIVE Igbo with NRA, that show not be. I say where is the common sense to this, we should be able to say if you are deamed sain, then Government has the right to take life. I also look to the Bible.
I will never forget that, the people lost there lives just to sit and eat for lunch. Now we “COUNTRY” is lock in a LEGAL or LEGISLATIVE Igbo with NRA, that show not be. I say where is the common sense to this, we should be able to say if you are deamed sain, then Government has the right to take life. I also look to the Bible.
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I'm personally against the death penalty unless for serious crimes, and even then, most of the time the suspect I believe is mentally ill. I think they must be proven beyond reasonable doubt that they are beyond help.
Now I'm not a Constitutional lawyer, but some may chime in on this. But I believe IX Amendment States the right to LIFE, liberty, and pursuit of happiness.
Now I'm not a Constitutional lawyer, but some may chime in on this. But I believe IX Amendment States the right to LIFE, liberty, and pursuit of happiness.
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MSgt Brian Welch
I think you may have found a loophole. Prison = No Liberty. Death = No Life....
so.....no prison and no death penalty.
I think you may have found a loophole. Prison = No Liberty. Death = No Life....
so.....no prison and no death penalty.
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SPC Americo Garcia
I'm for it I agree on one part with SRa Eddie V for serious crimes, and proven beyond reasonable doubt. Our prisons are overcrowded all over the Untied States. Ca passed a law to forgive some crimes reclassified them as misdemeanors to place them on probation rather than prison. I would also say if there is any doubt of creditability to the person on death row. wait till all legal effort have failed to prevent an innocent man from dying.
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SPC Americo Garcia, Don't forget Obama freed some who were in for" lesser crimes". That made me feel better knowing their crimes weren't serious. Not!
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SSG Eddye Royal
I believe in the death penalty for this reason, I was on AD in FT. Hood, Tx. July/ August 1991 when they had the Lubby’s killer. Me and a friend, another soldier from 1st CAV almost went in there to eat.
I will never forget that, the people lost there lives just to sit and eat for lunch. Now we “COUNTRY” is lock in a LEGAL or LEGISLATIVE Igbo with NRA, that show not be. I say where is the common sense to this, we should be able to say if you are deamed sain, then Government has the right to take life. I also look to the Bible.
I will never forget that, the people lost there lives just to sit and eat for lunch. Now we “COUNTRY” is lock in a LEGAL or LEGISLATIVE Igbo with NRA, that show not be. I say where is the common sense to this, we should be able to say if you are deamed sain, then Government has the right to take life. I also look to the Bible.
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The Death Penalty is absolutely needed. I feel this decision is nothing more than incremental liberalism and a repeat of a social experiment that has already failed. In the 80's this was tried and failed. It endangered not only our law enforcement and fire first responders, but society in general. "Those that are ignorant of the past (or intentionally chose to ignore it) are doomed to repeat their failures."
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It's more unconstitutional for the heinous act they committed on their victims. So, yes I believe in the death penalty.
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