Posted on Nov 2, 2014
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So I was perusing Army Times and saw this little Gem:

http://www.armytimes.com/article/20110309/NEWS/103090328/Ex-Walter-Reed-CSM-sentenced-to-6-months

From the article:

Some of the offenses admitted by Crump include wearing six awards and decorations from March to December of 2009, including the Armed Forces Expeditionary Medal with Arrowhead device, which indicates — contrary to military records — that he made a combat jump into Grenada. He admitted he wore a U.S. Navy Achievement Medal without authority since 2006 and, on three occasions, two or three unauthorized overseas service bars.


Do you think that the CSM was fined too harshly, just right, or not enough?


I will reserve my comments for now.
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1LT Kevin Bridges
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Prison is way too harsh. I think that forced retirement for his actions and a possible demotion to E8 would be plenty. The embarrassment alone would be punishment. 6 months in jail for a non-violent offense is a waste of money to the taxpayer.
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SGT Research Associate
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agreed Lt, but first, demote his ass, take away some pay, give him some bullshit extra duty, then boot him. Fuck this guy.
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1LT Kevin Bridges
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Agreed!
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Ditto!
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COL Timothy S.
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I originally said "Too harsh" but not because I believed the sentence was too much. I think the sentence should have been different.

Prison time for this kind of crime doesn't sit well with me. Although the criminal loses his freedom, he does so at tax payer expense. The reduction to Staff Sergeant, IMHO, leaves a stain on the NCO Corps that other Senior Enlisted would deeply resent.

I would have preferred reduction to Specialist (E-4), surrender of 6-month's pay and allowances, Bad Conduct Discharge, and 6-months of mandatory public service at a Dept of Veterans Affairs Hospital.
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MAJ William Guglielmi
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COL Smith, I agree totally. Jail time followed by a SSG reduction cost U.S. taxpayers too much.
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SSG Ron Binnie
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MAJ Petraca got it right. There is no place in the military for people with any lack of integrity.
I had the opportunity to get away with being awarded The Purple Heart and I could not do it. I didn't deserve it because the injury happened on the range on the range not in a firefight.
Some people just never learn.
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MSgt Roger Lalik
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Personally I do not believe prison time is warranted. He didn't steal, rape or kill anyone. yes I know stolen valor. Not the issue here. What his "crime" comes down to is violating the trust and confidence of his subordinates. As despicable as the offenses are. I just don't see jail time being warranted.

I do think take a lot of money away and a reduction in grade below the NCO ranks is called for as well as a General Discharge under Honorable conditions.

Don't understand the reduction to Staff Sergeant at all. Maybe that was the limit the court could go to. But don't think so.

My thoughts anyway....
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SFC Bridge Crewmember
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It impossible to fake your OMPF, I doubt that helps him get promoted.
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MSgt Roger Lalik
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MAJ Ballinger, don't know if it was intention or not. But, calling him an E9 is much more appropriate than calling him a Command Sergeant Major. Just happened to catch my eye this morning.
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CPO Jeff Burns
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I think that as a CSM he should be judged MORE harshly, not less. There is absolutely no possible excuse for his actions. None. This is not a private taking a picture for his family and wanting to look "cooler", this is a senior enlisted adviser with full knowledge of what he was doing. He planned it out, bought the ribbons/medals, had them mounted in the proper order, the whole nine yards. He should be stripped of all rank, privileges, and benefits and thrown out on his ass.
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TSgt Services
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I'm curious why an E-9 would lie about their experiences, he's probably done a lot of interesting things and has some great stories to tell without making any of it up
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SFC Bridge Crewmember
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Chief it's impossible to fake your OMPF, I doubt that he used fake awards to get promoted.
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MCPO Ed Armstrong
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My thoughts exactly, they do check your records don't they?
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SPC Robert Patrick
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He should have gotten a dishonorable discharge for conduct unbecoming of a Non-Commissioned Officer and a soldier period
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SGM Mikel Dawson
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As a retired SGM, I feel he got of too light! He admitted he was guilty and he knew what he did. As a SNCO, we are suppose to set the example. What should have happened was to be stood infront of his entire unit, his Commander yank his rank and read a sentence of 20yrs hard labor, then marched of at an MP escort. Full and public!
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SSG Ronald Rollins
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I agree. He wore his awards in full veiw of all in his unit to get the glory he did not earn. He should get the shame he so rightly earned.
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SFC Bridge Crewmember
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Really SGM 20yrs hard labor for lying about his awards. There are soldiers committed misconduct worse that this and given a second chance.
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MCPO Ed Armstrong
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Senior NCO"s must lead by example, knowledge and putting his subordinates first. A good leader does not need these awards to do his job. Those who think they do , probably has other issues also.

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SSG(P) Casualty Operations Ncoic
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As a Senior NCO, he should have been exceeding the standard, not blatantly ignoring it. He should have been busted down to SPC. If you cannot uphold the rules and regulations as a leader, then what are you saying (through your actions) to junior Soldiers?
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