Posted on Nov 7, 2014
Disrespected while correcting a Soldier, how would you handle this situation?
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Ok so there I was at a court-martial asking a Soldier why he was wearing ACUs and not ASUs. He started to catch an attitude, so I told him to go to parade rest. He turned away from me looking at my paralegal, putting his hands in his pockets.
My paralegal tells him that he does not need to be looking at him, but at me, because I was the one addressing him, and that he needs to show respect. As the Soldier continues to stare out at my paralegal with his hands in his pockets, I continue to correct him when a civilian comes out to where I was correcting the Soldier stating that she had work to do and I could "yell" at him some other time.
I was so mind boggled and dumbfounded because said civilian used to be in the military. I'm sorry, but the last time I checked the Soldier was given a direct order by a CPT and myself that the duty uniform for the court-martial was ASUs and an alternate uniform had to be approved by the judge, so I was doing my job by asking him why he was in the wrong uniform and then correcting him when he began to disrespect me.
I felt so disrespected I just walked away and sat in a room to cool off.
How would you have handled the situation?
My paralegal tells him that he does not need to be looking at him, but at me, because I was the one addressing him, and that he needs to show respect. As the Soldier continues to stare out at my paralegal with his hands in his pockets, I continue to correct him when a civilian comes out to where I was correcting the Soldier stating that she had work to do and I could "yell" at him some other time.
I was so mind boggled and dumbfounded because said civilian used to be in the military. I'm sorry, but the last time I checked the Soldier was given a direct order by a CPT and myself that the duty uniform for the court-martial was ASUs and an alternate uniform had to be approved by the judge, so I was doing my job by asking him why he was in the wrong uniform and then correcting him when he began to disrespect me.
I felt so disrespected I just walked away and sat in a room to cool off.
How would you have handled the situation?
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Edited 11 y ago
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This newer kinder military is ridiculous! Go back to smoking the dog shit out of some of these useless jerks and maybe salvaging a few instead of this "I gotta write a counseling statement and build a paper trail" nonsense!
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You are completely right at demanding proper etiquette. However, you are also looking for a reason to address soldiers in question. Focus on your job. Do your job. Giving an officer a shiny thing helps them fail the mission. Stay focused, use that disrespect as another submission of evidence. That... And you're just a Dick.
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As far as the soldier goes... I would have told him to change that the insubordination was doing himself no favors. I would have continued with the fact that if he continued to shame himself that his disrespectful attitude would not go unnoticed by those who had authority to make his life truly uncomfortable answering such a simple question would be the least of his worries. I would do this with a flat even tone and not raise my voice or loose control. Then he can either change or not. If not he can answer to the next level in the chain of command.
As for the civilian. I would have asked for a second. Politely at first, then I would have informed the civilian that I was taking one and she could wait. If she disliked that she could speak have her boss speak to mine and figure something out. If she disregarded my intent I'd speak to her bos with my superior in tow and maybe even her directly with both present. If this doesn't correct the situation then it should move up from there.
As for the civilian. I would have asked for a second. Politely at first, then I would have informed the civilian that I was taking one and she could wait. If she disliked that she could speak have her boss speak to mine and figure something out. If she disregarded my intent I'd speak to her bos with my superior in tow and maybe even her directly with both present. If this doesn't correct the situation then it should move up from there.
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I don't know all of the story but what I do know is there is a time and place for correction. On the spot is still between you and the Soldier. You Sir, chose your audience.
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Let him stand before the judge in the wrong uniform so as to add contempt of court to the list of charges.
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