Disrespected while correcting a Soldier, how would you handle this situation?

I think there are some misunderstandings here... Yes NCO business is still tossed around as taking care of there own and can and should be done - depending on said circumstances! Can be taken in several ways. As previously mentioned, some of you might want to re-consider your words when your NCOER is signed by a GS personnel. Having not served in joint positions, you will learn quite quickly that they too can ruin your military career... Do some research! Look up SES (Senior Executive Service) which happen to be equivalent to a Flag Officer, or that GS15 whom signs that 06's OER. Some of you Senior NCOs that want to play NCOs rule, think twice, you might find you will have to swallow your words! Wouldn't misconstrue NCO leadership with the power of the mighty GS leadership and their penned signature! You will learn quite quickly they can be just as powerful... All that said, depending on the position, a GS will typically let the military handle their own if requested. In my 4 joint assignments, didn't see once that a Senior Army individual didn't have the respect to request or state they would handle the situation... And yes, I did state "request", the professional thing to do!

Seems in the process this soldier set Himself up to have even more rocks thrown into His sinking boat. Well add some more charges and additional action against this soldier, if nothing else it will help demonstrate how unfit He is for military service and help Him out the door. Sounds like someone that won't even do well in the civilian world, there He will just get fired. You didn't state what the court martial was or what level of Court Martial it was for but proceeding beyond Administrative actions through an Article 15 this idiot already has a problem and is making it worse on Himself.

That's a good question and one that begs a review of where the military has gone in 20 yrs. I can tell you that in my days as an Airman up through my retirement I saw way too many changes in military protocol... Time outs in basic, airmen telling NCO's that they are smarter and know more about the job... telling us that the rules are stupid and should be changed... Challenges to dress and appearance standards, increases in failures to go, and yet when we older NCO's tried to maintain good order and discipline we are the ones told to back off.

I am thinking that this individual was already on their way out the door and was going to soon find getting a real job in the real world just as tough, since many states now have an employment at will law, meaning an employer doesn't have to give a reason to let an employee go as long as it's not discrimination based.

I'm sure you did what you could and that lawyer, prior military, should have already spoken with her client about his attire for the day.

I would start be noting the names of the involved individuals and asking the soldier to provide you with his unit and section. Civilian employees do have a different chain of command so asking her the nane of her supervisor is appropriate. Then contacting those supervisors and informing them of the incident and asking them to take appropriate action. As the soldier was enlisted and you did outrank him, locking him up was right, however, if he failed to boat a direct and lawful order (and in the presence of an officer) he should receive an article 15 for his actions. It may also be that he was not there on official business and therefore was not in a uniform befitting court.

As a Paralegal myself, I see this all too often. If you're working in military justice you are dealing with Soldiers that are usually already in some sort of trouble. Most of these "Soldiers" are in the process of nonjudicial punishment, court-martial, or administrative separation. That means that these individuals don't care a lot about their professionalism.

As for a uniform for the trial, if you were dealing with the "accused" then he/she has the right to ask the judge to allow the duty uniform instead of ASU's during the trial.

SFC (Join to see), I'm wondering why you allowed the Soldier to play reindeer games with you....If he was out of uniform, tell him to leave and come back in the right uniform - if he didn't want to leave (it's not like the Soldier has a choice), I'd ask the bailiff to ensure the court room was prepared for the courts martial.....the bailiff is there to maintain the good order and discipline and I am quite sure the bailiff would be more than happy to quell the disturbance

Honestly Ssg, I probably would of carried on addressing the soldier, regardless of the civilian. Or went and found whoever was in charge of this scum, and told them what's up, and requested permission to smoke the disrespectful runt.

Is beating him like a piñata out of the question???

Where you inside the courthouse? If you all were getting loud I can understand why the civilian did ask you all to be quiet. I would probably have asked you all to quiet down myself if you were disturbing the people working in the building. The best option would probably have been to take the offending Soldier outside for a verbal counseling before sending him back to his quarters to get the correct uniform.

The military does not need toxic people. This soldier leaves you no choice but to recommend him a dishonorable discharge or pay the penalty and a new restart to becoming a soldier.