Posted on Apr 21, 2015
Do you believe Organized Unit Level Sports are a good thing for our military or not?
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Whether it is Flag Football, Softball, Volleyball or otherwise, do you feel that Organized Unit Level (Battalion, etc) Sports are a good thing for our military or not? Please explain in your comments.
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I totally wish we actually did any form of unit level sports. I remember asking about softball and even bowling. My flight chief told me right to my face that Airmen are not allowed to play. You have to learn you job first then maybe you can play. Which I understood at first, until I noticed that most of the guys who were part of the Good Ole Boy system were allowed to skip work and go play. Also, when our ops tempo increased to insane levels, we never had time for really anything outside of work. I remember growing up and seeing Navy, Marines, and Army folk playing in our recreational sports and happy doing it. Never saw any of that until my unit deployed to Korea and we beat everyone at the base at everything. It was awesome.
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Push Ball, best organized military sport...EVER! Too bad we "don't want to hurt" anyone, Ultimate Frisbee is so much more fun...NOT!
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CSM (Join to see), push ball was/is great. But if you actually have the right group of people Ultimate Frisbee is a blast and there is much less standing around.
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I hate to sit the fence on this one but the truth of the matter is that is can go either way. A basic example is this. In the year leading to my second deployment orginized sports were a great way to bring us together. It helped build unit cohesion were there might not have been. Yet as the time grew closer to our second deployment those sports became sometimes a detrement. Injuries would happen. Most were minor but with some other units they weren't. We were dwindling our fighting force before we began. Not out of lack of safety but because we as soldiers were amped up. So all in all I see good and bad in it. It really is situational.
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Absolutely, it's a great way for SM's to have fun, bond, and blow off steam from the work day without necessarily being scrutinized for their level of athleticism. Also a chance to get in some quality PT time without participants being aware!
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I believe they are, and I believe that the intensity on the field is fine as long as it is close to appropriate behavior. Trash talking within limits has to be allowed for enjoyment all around.
What are your thoughts SFC (Join to see)?
What are your thoughts SFC (Join to see)?
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I believe that, while they can be a wonderful way to increase espirit de corp, unit cohesion, etc, that too often we worry about somebody getting hurt, or you have rank makes it way into the picture which it should not, and all of the stupidity that should make for a great time get overshadowed.
The good and the bad hold equal weight, so I am indifferent. I would love to see more sports and 'fun days' but unfortunately some people ruin it.
The good and the bad hold equal weight, so I am indifferent. I would love to see more sports and 'fun days' but unfortunately some people ruin it.
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I know I am supposed to give the politically correct answer, but I think that we need to worry less about people's feelings and the possibility of injury and build a resilient force that works hard and plays hard.
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For those people that enjoy them, go for it.... HOWEVER, I have seen MANY sports related injuries.... Injury takes people out of the fight....
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When deployed, it's a valuable bonding/PT type event that beats some of the other distractions out in town like crime, drugs, etc. In homeport things get complicated with competing home demands and watch schedules.
I refereed military league soccer. Rank is pretty much left off the pitch unless someone mucks up. The SEL does a good job on tamping down the enlisted offender. Problem is when you have a flaming ego Ops Boss setting the bad example. We toss them like any other bad example and we make sure the CoC gets the report through MWR. SELs really appreciate it.
The funniest example was a Marine team had a hothead Private. He wanted to know my name after I popped a yellow card on him. I just said "Referee". When I changing my shoes back at the car, the Private along with his Gunny walked by. Gunny noticed the eagle on the window and applied a perfect Mark Harmon NCIS head slap with a resounding "Dumb A!"
I refereed military league soccer. Rank is pretty much left off the pitch unless someone mucks up. The SEL does a good job on tamping down the enlisted offender. Problem is when you have a flaming ego Ops Boss setting the bad example. We toss them like any other bad example and we make sure the CoC gets the report through MWR. SELs really appreciate it.
The funniest example was a Marine team had a hothead Private. He wanted to know my name after I popped a yellow card on him. I just said "Referee". When I changing my shoes back at the car, the Private along with his Gunny walked by. Gunny noticed the eagle on the window and applied a perfect Mark Harmon NCIS head slap with a resounding "Dumb A!"
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Absolutely... Great way to bond as a unit.
Rank needs to be left off the playing field, which, at times, becomes an issue (especially in contact sports), but it can be managed.
All for it...
Rank needs to be left off the playing field, which, at times, becomes an issue (especially in contact sports), but it can be managed.
All for it...
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