Posted on Jun 10, 2017
Do you find the term "butter bar" offensive or demeaning?
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As a newly minted O-1 I have no problem with the term, but some of my fellow ENS/LTs have been scolded for using it. I never considered the term a pejorative when I was enlisted and I still don't now that I'm on the officer side. I always thought it was sort of a rite of passage that goes along with being a new Officer. Am I missing something? Do you consider the term disrespectful or demeaning?
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Never found a need to call anyone in the military by anything other than their name, rank, last name, or title. Never called Army a dogface or Navy a squid...wouldn’t know what to call Air Force other than Airman. Butter bars is perjorative but don’t think anyone used the term on anyone that didn’t do something to garner a little derision. Definitely never minded being called a “Jarhead”...kinda wore the nicknames with pride. Semper Fi
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I would think it to be no more offensive than the term rookie, Everybody had to start somewhere. Its one of the steps Officers pass through on the rise up the ranks and hopefully learn the proper things to become a more effective officer and leader. Its like any job, You learn as You advance and gain experience.
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CPT (Join to see), I agree with you completely.
It beats the alternative "Airman Basic with a college degree".
It beats the alternative "Airman Basic with a college degree".
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Hi Sir,
I would say that the answer depends stringently on what words flank "Butter Bar".
E.g.,
"Congrats 2LT Beggs! Well done to our newest Butter Bar!"= Good to go!
"Where is that slacker, Jones? Typical f-n Butter Bar." or "Don't listen to that soup-sandwich. She's just a Butter Bar."= Not so much.
:) :)
Congrats, Sir!! Well done. :)
I would say that the answer depends stringently on what words flank "Butter Bar".
E.g.,
"Congrats 2LT Beggs! Well done to our newest Butter Bar!"= Good to go!
"Where is that slacker, Jones? Typical f-n Butter Bar." or "Don't listen to that soup-sandwich. She's just a Butter Bar."= Not so much.
:) :)
Congrats, Sir!! Well done. :)
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Give me a break! What, now we cry about WORDS in the Military?? This term has been used as far back as I can remember! Depending on the INDIVIDUAL, it can be a put down, or just descriptive. If the newly thinks they are "all that" just because they have the "O-" in front of their pay grade, it is definitely a put down. It is the individual who determines the quality of the descriptive!!
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Situation dictates. I've used it to describe a cherry 2LT that's still getting wet behind the ears in a loving, joking sense. I've also used it to describe one of those freshly commissioned 2LTs that are charging around everywhere hunting for salutes.
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Tell them to get a thicker skin and to stopping acting like a bunch of bitches about it.
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