Posted on Jun 10, 2017
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As a newly minted O-1 I have no problem with the term, but some of my fellow ENS/LTs have been scolded for using it. I never considered the term a pejorative when I was enlisted and I still don't now that I'm on the officer side. I always thought it was sort of a rite of passage that goes along with being a new Officer. Am I missing something? Do you consider the term disrespectful or demeaning?
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SSgt Lana Coon
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When my huband commissioned his previous commander made me promise to find him an old military butter knife and do something cool with it for his OTS graduation. I made him a small shadow box with his basic training picture, map and dates. He very much appreciated the gesture. He was not the least bit offended and if he wasn’t, how could I be or anyone else for that matter?
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Capt Walter Miller
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Inevitable.
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PO2 Louis Fattrusso
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When I was in the Navy these were terms of respect. We would always have this competitive comradary.
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LCDR Michael L.
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I was once a butter bar NFO and was told by a seasoned 1st Class, “You’ve been in the Navy since breakfast.” I’ll never forget that. He taught me a lot about being a leader.
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SGT Frank Pritchett
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I never called a Lieutenant a butter bar or even referred to one as a butter bar. It takes NCO's to make an officer and once you call a Lieutenant a butter bar then you lose a little respect from him.
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LTC Ronald Stephens
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Edited 8 y ago
No more than nugget, or debutant. Being a mustang, I was familiar with both sides of the officer/enlisted coin. I made it a point to cultivate certain NCOs in the organization that demonstrated a very high degree of knowledge and understanding of what being a field artilleryman is and does. NCOs are truly the backbone of any military service.
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CPT Robert Boshears
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Mustangers, not only rare, but head the pack
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SGT Carl Blas
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Comes with the territory, better then being called "Cherry" when new to the 82nd. ABN Division, or "FNG" in country for the first time. All is Good, Salute!
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Capt Mike Snellgrove
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Nope wore it with pride
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CW2 Electronic Warfare Technician
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Compared to what I was called as a PVT, butter bar is nothing. I think a 2LT who gets offended by it probably thinks way too much of themself and needs to remember that they are literally a private with a degree and a signature that means something. Much to learn they have. Now a humble 2LT who embraces being "Butters" and listens to their NCOs to provide the best leadership for the platoon and learn what's necessary to be a successful XO and CO. Damn right, that's goodness
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LT Fred West
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No. I am proud to be a Squid and was happy to be a "butter bar" Mustang.
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