Posted on Apr 3, 2017
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It seems that everyone has something that signifies them as special or different from others such as the color beret, Stetson, buttons. How did this all start and why? Is it good to have or does it divide us between us and them....legs vs. Airborne?
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Sgt Charles Welling
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Once a Marine, always a .............. You have heard it and it is true. The Marine Corps does not allow a lot of decorative distinctions. The reason is unity, we all are Marines, that is enough and that is significant. Some few years ago the Commandant was petitioned to allow special chevrons for the infantry, his response? Not gonna happen, we ALL are infantry and we aren't going to start the specialty chevron thing. Today, when I meet a Marine or speak to a Marine with a cover on etc., I am speaking to another Marine and it is enough. It happens two, three times a week and young or older, we are Marines.......................... each as special as the other. I know a Major General, I am inclined to call him "General." He insists I call him by his first name, he is a Marine only.
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GySgt Duane DaVein
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Sir, I don't think it's a matter of out doing other branches/services. Military science is based on thousands of years of experience at war. All the pretty stuff is designed to encourage unity and a sense of pride within the ranks. No one on the battlefield fights for god, king, and country. It's our brothers that keep us on the field when common sense and our survival instinct says we should be anywhere except there.
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SFC Terry Murphy
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Those that do not know history, are doomed to repeat it.
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SFC Terry Murphy
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I learned early in my career that this was true. As a Private, I would see the PAC clerk or the S-2 NCO would always get an award at the Battalion awards ceremony. What about the Private or Specialist that busted his hump on the ARTEP or major range week we had just been on?
As a new NCO, I started putting in at least one of my soldiers for an award after field problems, ranges, or even when I just noticed that they were busting their hump in garrison.
I figured that it didn't cost me anything except a few minutes writing it up and it seemed my troops would go the extra mile.
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SGT Randall Smith
SGT Randall Smith
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So easy to chew butt. But a AttaBoy can go a long way to getting more out of your people.
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PV2 Glen Lewis
PV2 Glen Lewis
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One of my favorite quotes ignored by the Romans, Napoleon and the Nazis when they tried to invade Russia and were defeated more by the use of winter as a military strategy than the military itself. When it comes to something shiny on military uniforms I think it serves a purpose and is only made detrimental by the individual wearing it.
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Capt Christian D. Orr
Capt Christian D. Orr
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SGT Randall Smith - Yep; positive motivation tends to work better than negative motivation.
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SPC Ann T.
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Camaraderie, morale, team cohesiveness.....All improved with shiny stuff. Also, initiative, discipline, pride in self and service are advanced. If you have to look good to keep up the reputation of something larger than yourself, you take pride in it and bust your butt. I like shiny stuff even if I only got a few scraps. Always proud to be able to spell "PARATROOPER" in jumps.
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SPC Infantryman
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Edited 7 y ago
The corporate world is exactly like this, I have worked crappy jobs in fast food and in a engineering firm. And some people have the desire to be recognized, otherwise their morale slips or they become complacent, uninterested or just quit for no reason. In a manner similar to the military, many corporations spend countless resources addressing issues of retention, cohesion, morale and individual development/education. Lumping everyone into one big category has its pro/cons, but many corporations are now focusing on a persons uniqueness. My last job created special incentives/allowances for different departments. They also allowed each department to decorate their cubicles differently to distinguish themselves. Some departments issue pins to wear, more than just flair, they add superficial value to a persons self-worth. Does it work? Hell yeah it does. It's all about keeping people happy, and making sure they do their jobs even if you have to give them a "gold star" sticker.

Society is changing and I understand a lot of the older folks just don't get why the new generation needs to feel special. But that's where we are now, people like shiny things!

I will also say that distinction carries a certain expectation and responsibility. If you're comparing a leg vs airborne, people will expect more from the latter. Same with a ranger tab, if you wear one you also have to uphold the legacy too.
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MSG Ron Radar
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As a former Airborne MSG . I realized you're only airborne till you hit the ground . Then you're a 'Leg' !...LOL
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SPC William Wilson
SPC William Wilson
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Very true !!
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Capt Richard I P.
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This is an ancient, perhaps ageless phenomenon.
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PO3 Donald Murphy
PO3 Donald Murphy
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Back in the day, it served its function. Take this picture for example; everyone in it was a British soldier. Yet, artillery had a uniform, cavalry, etc. And each uniform served a different recognition purpose. See a green jacketed guy? Cavalry. Etc. As everyone wears the same uniform now, its not a problem to differentiate with badges.
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MAJ Corporate Buyer
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I think the shiny stuff is important in the sense that it allows you to quickly assess someone's capabilities. Does it mean that the soldier is better or worse than others? Not necessarily but it's a place to start. When you walk into a doctor's office do you feel better if he has 15 diplomas on the wall behind his desk? Do you feel even better if some of them say Harvard, Yale, Whatever? Still, it doesn't mean he's a good doctor but if I'm picking between him and a guy with no diplomas, the choice is clear. Same goes with badges. Even if you're a terrible soldier, I can at least tell that you have some experience.
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CW4 Scott Hyde
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Why be the same as everyone else? If you do not have what it takes to be Airborne, Air Assault, Cav, a driver or mechanic, infantry, medic, and so on, be happy with what you have and not worry about it. If you have what it takes, wear it with pride because you earned it. If you want to be a Marine, join the Marines. Want more fruit salad, join the Air Force. If you want it but do not have it, get on the phone to your branch manager and see what you can do about it.
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SPC William Weedman
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As a "leg" (and proud of it!) medic who never earned a "stretcher badge" (EFMB-Expert Field Medical Badge) or a stretcher badge with a wreath (CMB-Combat Medical Badge) a wise sergeant once told me, doc it don't matter what they're wearing on their uniform, they always bleed red. Since he was a Vietnam veteran, I believe he also meant it matter what side they were on as well.
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