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Does my IRR time count towards my pay? I did an enlistment in the Navy and got out to attend college. Now that I have my degree I am joining the Army and going to OCS. I have heard that my IRR time will count towards my pay and read some things on here that say it does. However I also have seen some people say no it doesn’t count. Can anyone clear this up for me? Does anyone know the regulation? Anything will help!
Posted 7 y ago
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The answer is yes, but things will get complicated, your calculation date or R&R date will change whenever you re-join, which moves the target for getting your good years. Key is to always have good years in reserves, or you wind up doing 27 years to qualify to retire.....
Say for example you do 4 years active duty-you get paid as for ex E4 over 4-and you have 4 good years towards retirement
Then you go active reserves for 2 years, but you never have a good year, you are now being paid for ex E4 over 6 (but you still only have 4 years towards retirement)
Then you go IRR (you are still attached, but not drilling). Because Uncle Sam can recall you, they still count as service, but not towards retirement. So..say you do 2 years IRR, you are now going to be paid as E4 over 8 if you come back in, but after 8 years, you still only have 4 towards retirement.
Make sense? Time "attached" counts-because you can get the phone call with orders to report and go to wherever for whatever.
As a new officer, you will paid as a prior service enlisted, so you will be on the pay scale, for example, as an O-1E with however many years of service you had (including IRR).
Clear as mud
Say for example you do 4 years active duty-you get paid as for ex E4 over 4-and you have 4 good years towards retirement
Then you go active reserves for 2 years, but you never have a good year, you are now being paid for ex E4 over 6 (but you still only have 4 years towards retirement)
Then you go IRR (you are still attached, but not drilling). Because Uncle Sam can recall you, they still count as service, but not towards retirement. So..say you do 2 years IRR, you are now going to be paid as E4 over 8 if you come back in, but after 8 years, you still only have 4 towards retirement.
Make sense? Time "attached" counts-because you can get the phone call with orders to report and go to wherever for whatever.
As a new officer, you will paid as a prior service enlisted, so you will be on the pay scale, for example, as an O-1E with however many years of service you had (including IRR).
Clear as mud
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CPT Lawrence Cable
In his favor, but a relatively recent change, is allowing the inactive time to count for the 4+ to qualify for O1-E. When I went through, only Active or Active Reserve time counted. So if you did six years, but two of them inactive, you would have been paid as O1 with 6 years, instead of O1-E with 6 years (O1-E being a much better pay scale).
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CPT Lawrence Cable
SPC Alex Dillingham - You have a total point requirement for O1-E, it's either 4 years active or a total of 1460 reserve retirement points (which includes your active time). https://www.dfas.mil/militarymembers/payentitlements/Pay-Tables/Basic-Pay/CO_FE.html
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I am prior enlisted and recently commissioned. I return to AD next month and I have 5.5 AD and 2.5 IRR. My question is, will my reenlistment into the reserves for ROTC count towards TIS in terms of pay? I am trying to figure out if I will be paid as O-1E over 8 years or over 10 years.
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Yes it does, i have been in the IRR for a total of 12 years, that count when calculating your pay, but to retired you need 50 points for each year
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For the years that you accumulated enough points for them to be good years, yes (for retirement pay).
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Your IRR time will count for pay. You can find it under the DODFMR Vol 7A Ch 1 which identifies different types of federal service.
Your friends probably went through ROTC which doesn't count for pay.
As long as you weren't discharged from the IRR your pay entry date will be the day you shipped off to the Navy. If you join and find this is in error, find your unit Career Counselor and they will help you fix it.
Your friends probably went through ROTC which doesn't count for pay.
As long as you weren't discharged from the IRR your pay entry date will be the day you shipped off to the Navy. If you join and find this is in error, find your unit Career Counselor and they will help you fix it.
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You can still take short tours. When I was on temporary active duty, I knew a major who was on 5-month orders. You can take short tours in the inactive ready Reserve but you don't get the membership points for being in the Army Reserve or National Guard. Here is some more information.
As mentioned above, you need to earn 50 Points per year in order to have a “Good Year” that counts toward retirement. ... Most members of the IRR won't earn a Good Year toward retirement unless they served a partial year on active duty or in the Regular Reserves either before or after joining the IRR.May 6, 2015
Understanding Guard and Reserve Points & Retirement - The Military ...
https://themilitarywallet.com › guard-rese...
As mentioned above, you need to earn 50 Points per year in order to have a “Good Year” that counts toward retirement. ... Most members of the IRR won't earn a Good Year toward retirement unless they served a partial year on active duty or in the Regular Reserves either before or after joining the IRR.May 6, 2015
Understanding Guard and Reserve Points & Retirement - The Military ...
https://themilitarywallet.com › guard-rese...

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PO3 (Join to see)
Sir,
Thank you for your reply, but I am not asking about retirement. I understand it doesn’t count towards retirement time, however I have been told numerous times that it does however count towards your time for pay. So essentially I have served 4 years active duty, but 2 years in IRR could also count towards my pay.
Thank you for your reply, but I am not asking about retirement. I understand it doesn’t count towards retirement time, however I have been told numerous times that it does however count towards your time for pay. So essentially I have served 4 years active duty, but 2 years in IRR could also count towards my pay.
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PO3 (Join to see) not sure. I know you could be in the IRR and still be selected for promotion if you were going from Lieutenant to Captain to Major Etc. Hopefully others here know more about this. I was only in the IRR for Less Than 3 weeks and in that time I took my promotion delay of 3 years(I was O-2P in the CA/ID ARNG but not in a O-3 slot ) I called HRC to accept my promotion to Captain and I pinned myself while going from the National Guard to the Army Reserve.
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Irr does count towards pay, but not towards retirement. You should ask for an active duty audit, which should help identify how many years that actually was.
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