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If so, what branches and who pulls the detail? If not, when did it end? Also, has it been replaced with some other form of ash and trash details?
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KP still happens. At least, in a field environment. Field cooks always need extra staff and the tenet units are usually required...by the mayor cell...to provide at least one person per day.
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Col John Madison
SGT Robert Pryor - ROFL. Yes, you're quite right...and NOTHING today compares to the KP of many decades past. Most of that went away with the end of the draft/lottery era. When the all volunteer forces come into being, pay went up and the disincentives of KP were moved (largely) to paid staff. UCMJ punishments are another thing entirely, even if they involved and especially involved menial taskings.
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KP or galley duty, as a punishment, stopped in the late 70's or early 80's. It was replaced by "work hours". Two work hours were assigned as an option from going to Mast (NJP). Duties were usually the dirtiest of the day; cleaning bilges, unclogging the MSD (shitter tank), removing old grime in hard to reach areas, etc.
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CSM Thomas Ray
Col John Madison - My first job when i got to Viet Nam, I knew it had to get better after that, boy was I wrong.
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SPC Thomas Lansing
Yes, I remember Kitchen Police (KP) duty! 4:00 AM, reporting for duty, and working all day on the meal to be served in the mess hall! I had gone to college, for an Associate's Degree in Hotel/Restaurant Management. My KP duty started out with doing a menial job in the kitchen, until the cook found out that I knew what I was doing in the kitchen. It was then that he more or less watched me as if he might learn something new. I do remember teaching him who to crack 4 eggs into a pot for scrambled eggs, using both hands and not getting any shells mixed in with the eggs! I also showed one of the kitchen staff how to chop veggies without cutting off their fingertips! Curl the fingertips under your hand, and use the bones between your knuckles as the knife guard!
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The Army still did when I was in (through 2007); although the only times I had the fortune to see & experience it was when deployed or off at long-term training exercises.
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Got KP a few times between basic and AIT also once during reforger in Germany, I didn't mind that one, as it was so dam cold , the mess tent was warm, had a break from "humping" around in the snow for a few hours , "pots and pans still sucked!
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SGT Robert Pryor
I was never fortunate enough to get pots and pans. Being the dud I was, it was straight to the grease trap for me, even my very first time in Basic. Before we got assigned our jobs, I made fun of the Mess Sergeant being an E-4 with 18 years in the Army. Not a smart move on my part.
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Did KP in BMT, never saw it again. Nearly every DFAC I ate at during my time had civilians as a healthy portion of their work force and deployments had contraxtors. And really...most of the knuckleheads I had put on extra duty you didn't want around someone's food. Washing vehicles, mopping floors, and picking up trash all around base was more their speed.
I do wish they'd brought back Correctional Custody when I was in. Pretty much nonexistent early in my career but those that attended either became good Airmen or mediocre civilians real quick. Anyone remember that?
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I do wish they'd brought back Correctional Custody when I was in. Pretty much nonexistent early in my career but those that attended either became good Airmen or mediocre civilians real quick. Anyone remember that?
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SGT Robert Pryor
Maybe that's why I always wound up in the grease trap -- they didn't want me around the food.
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Sgt John Steinmeier
When I was stationed at Kirtland AFB circa 1992-1993 we had a Correctional Custody Facility that we ran. Had Airman not only from Kirtland but several other bases as well. They would get "farmed" out to different facilities on base to do cleaning and other menial tasks during the duty day. If you were the patrol assigned to the sector where the CC Facility was you had to escort them to the Chow Hall for breakfast and dinner. They marched to and from the CC facility to chow unless it was raining.
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Mayor Celll often reqests a duty roster, or sometimes the kp support comes from the HHC/HSC element that owns the cooks.
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KP ,oh the horror ,White towel tied to bunk rail,3:30 wake up ,introduction to Mess cooks and assignments,mine was usually grease pit or if lucky Pots and Pans,almost was a DRO until the Mess Sergeant found out I was a “goddamn Yankee”,back to the sinks PVT!
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SGT Robert Pryor
Y'all needed to learn how to say y'all. Which reminds me of some Texas humor, SGT Philip Roncari. A lady from Dallas was on flight, seated next to a woman from Boston. Noticing the different accent, the Texas lady asked, "Where y'all from?" The Bostonian replied, "Where we don't end sentences in prepositions." Taken aback, the Texan rephrased her sentence, "Where y'all from, bitch" Hey, don't mess with Texas.
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SPC Richard Zacke
SGT Robert Pryor to funny bitch, sounds like a Texas phrase, y'all should swing by Florida there turnering the state back on. Oh by the way my surgery turned out great.
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SGT Robert Pryor
Thanks. I wonder with civilians taking over so many routine support activities if they were also taking over sh!t details too.
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In my last unit we had civilians washing dishes but KP still cleaned the kitchen, dining area and moved produce. Potato peeling was still a thing but we had a machine lol
In my last unit we had civilians washing dishes but KP still cleaned the kitchen, dining area and moved produce. Potato peeling was still a thing but we had a machine lol
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Yep, I remember, Pots and Pans man, DRO, I was just glad to make SGT so I didn't have to pull KP
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