Posted on Aug 21, 2016
E6 in 3 years? Is there such thing as making rank too soon?
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I recall sailors getting E-4 out of nuke school. In exchange for a 6 year enlistment.
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Reading this is just like having deja vu all over again. Back in the day, the Vietnam War Days, combat units were going thru NCO’s so fast, mostly because NCO’s were the prime targets of the NVA and the Viet Cong regulars who realized that shooting Junior Officers was not as effective the as shooting NCO’s, that there were more SP4’s just out of AIT leading squads than there were E5 Sgts available. So the Army and the Marines started Instant E5 programs just like OCS programs that turned out instant 2 Lts. I had several instant instant E5’s. After they learned their jobs, just like 2 LTs learned their jobs thru OJT and the school of hard knocks, they actually turned out to be pretty good NCO’s. So don’t be too hard on yourself. If you can do the job, then do it. Why do you care what a Chief who spent twenty years working in his Rating before he or she made Chief thinks? Look at it this way. You got where you are because you earned it. He got to where he or she is because that was the system then. So you got to where you are now because this is the system now. Good luck.
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SFC Lorence Parker
Was an PSG E-7 at 18 months. 101st Airborne Vietnam..As you said we went through Senior NCO's and Lt's on a 30 day basis..
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SSgt Paul Murray
When I was in-country with the USAF all though VN and at Khe Sanh, I saw a lot of Marines with "blood Stripes". Barley 18 yrs olds that were already Gunnys.
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It depends on your training, aptitude and experience. The Army made me an E5 eleven months after my enlistment. (NOTE: "the Army made me..." not "I made E5..."). In my case, I left the service after three years with some senior officer's commendation letters and a BSM.
Then again, there were other "shake'n'bake" E5s who didn't fare so well.
YMMV.
Then again, there were other "shake'n'bake" E5s who didn't fare so well.
YMMV.
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I came out of boot camp as an E-3 due to both AF JROTC training in high school and Army ROTC Summer Camp right out of high school; unfortunately, my father had an accident soon afterward and I took a hardship discharge soon.
My older brother and his entore family was at Harold E Holt Communications Station, NW Cape, Aussieland at the time and my youngest brother was only 12 years old..old enough to drive the old truck and tractor on the farm, but not old enough to take Mom and Dad to the doctor or grocery store.
It is possible from what I have been told, but it depends a lot of the 'needs' of the military service and the capabilities of the individual.
One of my good friends in the military went from being a E-4 to a O-3 overnight due to a critical need in his specialty field and his ability to adapt and change quickly. So it is possible but not probable.
I was in Fleet Marine Medic training when my discharge came through; I was told that they would take me back once I got my Dad off the farm, but I did not realize how attached to the land the peole of gthe Missouri Oxzarks are, and it didn't happen.
My older brother and his entore family was at Harold E Holt Communications Station, NW Cape, Aussieland at the time and my youngest brother was only 12 years old..old enough to drive the old truck and tractor on the farm, but not old enough to take Mom and Dad to the doctor or grocery store.
It is possible from what I have been told, but it depends a lot of the 'needs' of the military service and the capabilities of the individual.
One of my good friends in the military went from being a E-4 to a O-3 overnight due to a critical need in his specialty field and his ability to adapt and change quickly. So it is possible but not probable.
I was in Fleet Marine Medic training when my discharge came through; I was told that they would take me back once I got my Dad off the farm, but I did not realize how attached to the land the peole of gthe Missouri Oxzarks are, and it didn't happen.
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Its not good! You have to pay your dues, and learrn from seasoned mentors!
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When I was with the 426th Civil Affairs Bn SO (A) in Upland, California from 2006-2010, I saw a PFC/E-2 make E-5 in 3 years. He went to Airborne School and within a couple of years took his basic NCO school so he did more than the average soldier and he made E-5 in a Hurry. This is in a high speed USAR unit.
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In most cases it never happened during the time i was in however there is always a few slip up but they do not last long. You had to be recommended through the Chain of Command, Then your TIS And TIG was check and then you still had to attend a board of senior NCO's and you were recommended or not and the paper work had to be assigned by your local COC up to the BN level. Then every thing was forwarded in a packet. This was all on a point system if you did not make the points you did not get promoted. If you made it through every thing then you would receive orders. However if there was NOT an Open slot for you to fill local they would find a slot for you Army wide so you may see a promotion and transfer paperwork all at one time. Many MOS's Bottle necked as E-7 So you would finish your career With that rank.
National Guard and Reserves different rules Than Active Duty enlisted.
National Guard and Reserves different rules Than Active Duty enlisted.
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