Posted on Jul 31, 2020
MSgt B Grimes
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What are your thoughts given some basic info? Fraud, Criminal Intent, PTSD & psychology.
An Army infantry soldier completes a first term 4 year enlistment, excited following 9/11. Possibly serves only one overseas tour, and never fires his weapon in combat. Gets out of Army following enlistment and joins Army Guard. Within first year of guard duty (upon orders for overseas tour) claims PTSD threatens to kill his comrades. Is released from duty.
Member has tried for 12 years to get benefits, and finally receives 100% disability. Claims to his family that his PTSD disease is cured. Does not follow psychologists prescriptions, as they are not really needed.
Was member fit for duty when enlisting in the Army Guard? Or did this member fraudulently join having pre-existing condition?
Can this member have concealed carry and go hunting, when he claims PTSD for gunfire?
would you consider this member to be defrauding the government and taxpayer?
Soldier has lied to family members claiming to be heroic sniper, only to reveal as lies later, having never fired his weapon in actual combat. Possibly used similar lies to VA psychologist.
How would you approach situation? VA does not seem to care, and does not offer path for investigation.
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SPC Demetrius Love
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I was medically retired in the end of 2019 and can not possibly see how anyone can fake anything the entire retirement process is now a year long because they combined the military and va medical retirement process, during my time I saw saw more then four different physiologist a neurologist two majors and went to three different military sponsored group programs run by the army’s private social workers just to ensure I had coping skills and wouldn’t snap and could at least start processing my trauma, ptsd is hard to understand , can you possibly imagine not feeling safe anywhere watching everyone’s hands not being able to interact with people not being able to even stand in a crowded gas station or store withought having to fight the urge to bugg out. The isolation you feel daily becuase no one understands. As a civilian who has never served our country and not been put in those life or death situations you have no right to say who is faking or not. Most medically retired veterans need support from their communities they don’t get and that why so many are homeless and commit suicide
Becuase they gave their all for people like you who don’t even appreciate it and would rather attack and antagonize them.
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PO1 Yeoman
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You have someone who is a welfare loser trying to get money from the government for sitting on their ass.
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SPC Benjamin Hartog
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Malingering is a common psychological syndrome that is widespread in the VA medical system. Many veterans will facetiously fabricate events that they claim are the putative precipitating triggers of PTSD in order to demonstrate they are entitled to VA benefits. I have not conducted a statistical epidemiological study of PTSD amongst veterans but I can surmise with confidence that the VA compensation program is swamped by an overwhelming amount of imposters. The VA has as a result ballooned into a vast welfare system for veterans undeserving of benefits. This underhanded exploitation of the VA suggests that these pseudo-PTSD sufferers are in fact afflicted with an anti-social personality disorder rather than an anxiety malady like PTSD. Classifying and identifying discrete PTSD symptoms is a very complex exercise in the differential diagnosis of various psychiatric illnesses that have comorbidities and requires a highly skilled mental health provider to identify signs of malingering and the sociopathic attempt by many veterans to authenticate a false claim for disability compensation. These mythological tales that are articulated by mendacious veterans are legendary and would, I suppose, constitute a convincing work of entertaining fiction worthy of Truman Capote or JD Salinger. There is only one appropriate noun to describe these malingerers: Phonies. SPC Benjamin
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SFC Robert Jackson
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Report his ass. That is all of our’s tax dollars to a REMF.
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1SG Patrick Sims
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I was in the Navy River Patrol in Vietnam and spent over 900 days in the Mekong Delta. From time to time you get a guy I know is lying about PTSD, but I keep it to myself. I generally excuse myself from the group meeting because I can't bear to listen to what I know is bullshit. As for hunting. My cousin used to go hunting with his friends for years but never loaded his gun. I have a permit to conceal carry, I'm afraid to do so. If I'm attacked---it would be over before I realized what had happened. I haven't had to shoot anyone in over 50 years. I don't believe I would care to.
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CSM Richard StCyr
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Wow, the causes of PTSD are wide ranging . Having fired your weapon or being shot at only cover a couple of potential stressors and many folks who have experienced those walk away unscathed. The VA screenings are pretty in depth so I don't know how anyone would be able to fake it and the therapists would know also. My uncle Dick would come unglued around fireworks if he wasn't expecting them to go off, but he had no problem if he was expecting them and he could go hunting because he knew there would be shooting. But gunfire when there normally shouldn't have been bothered him. As far as meds go, in my experience folks tend to stop taking them when they feel well because they believe they are better.
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SPC Clifton Barton
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I smell envy.
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SGM Robert E. Gray
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Warzone definitely changes people (Servicemembers and Civilians). I witnessed the difference in friends and Leaders. PTSD in people is hard to deny. Law Enforcement and Fire Firefighters also qualify. Most look perfect and their mental state is the challenge!
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MAJ Peripheral Vascular Surgeon
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I have seen quite a few people claim PTSD when in fact they were dealing with combat stress. This is a fine distinction and ultimately, a VA practitioner will make the call, but when I have confronted folks in the past the answer was always the same: “The Army owes me that money!”
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SrA Ronald Moore
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They never even had a workbook or Actual PTSD Classes when I got an Honorable discharged
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