Posted on Feb 2, 2016
How common is it for a someone in the Marines and Army to not have at least a secret clearance?
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I am asking simply because I was reviewing some documents and dozens of folks identified as AD, Res and Guard with ranks up to E7 indicated they did not have a clearance. On the AF side, we won't even give you access to NIPR without at least a secret (mil) or favorable (Civ).
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Many MOSs do not require it. 88M off the top of my head. Don't know how you put a fill in a radio, but there it is. They get a background investigation but not a clearance.
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LTC Jason Mackay
Operator task, technically. SIGO is at BN level, which may not even be where the Company is at.
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Most people just don't "need" one. The vast majority of what we do is Unclassified.
When I was still at BN Level, the S2 processed Clearance Activation's (as opposed to actual Clearances), and unless you were in H&S, an Officer, or SNCO chances are you didn't have one. Most folks in H&S didn't either. 600 people, and probably had 150~ folks with clearances (including a Comm PLT and a Scout Sniper PLT).
When I was still at BN Level, the S2 processed Clearance Activation's (as opposed to actual Clearances), and unless you were in H&S, an Officer, or SNCO chances are you didn't have one. Most folks in H&S didn't either. 600 people, and probably had 150~ folks with clearances (including a Comm PLT and a Scout Sniper PLT).
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Its quite normal at least for Marines. A lot of Marines don't know their clearance level due to it never applying directly to their job sometimes. A lot of people found out they didn't have secret clearance once when i was on ship and we went into a modified river city where only people with secret clearance or higher could utilize computers for any reason. Honestly I've never known why I hate always had a secret clearance but I've also never questioned it.
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How does the rest of the Air Force without a clearance get access to a computer? NIPR is the Unclassified network at least that's how it is in the Marines and Navy.
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Very common, especially for Reserves. It a "need" driven thing. If their billet requires a clearance (as my top secret did) they go through the process (background, etc). Otherwise, no. I needed it as battalion staff. An E-1 grunt may not.
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Pretty common. If your particular job required clearance, you would go through the process.
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Goes to need to know. I know that many Sailors don't get a security clearance unless they are going into a billet that requires one. Even if a Sailor is cleared for a security clearance, their command has to grant that clearance.
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There are two reasons - one their own doing and the other above their level - that most soldiers and Marines do not have even a secret clearance: bad credit/financial decisions and a failure on the part of their leadership (Company level and above) to provide them the opportunity to. Every E-5 and above should have one and if their leadership or their own fiscal irresponsibility is not facilitating it then it is something the unit needs to address and rectify.
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Even with eQIP, I still tell folks to keep an e-copy. Never know when they are going to change the system.
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No NIPR access without a Secret Clearance? Silly AF! ;)
Are you still allowed to use the latrine?
Are you still allowed to use the latrine?
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TSgt Joshua Copeland
TSgt Brian A., I think you will find that a good chunk of officers in the 1 series AFSC all have TS's.
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very common. There are many classifications and secret is very high up. You could go on many tours of duty and just have a ENTAC done on your background and that is the basic security clearance nationally.
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LTC Jason Mackay
We don't slap confidential on anything as far as materials, and you are either no clearance, secret, or TS with some amplifying investigation like SCI
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LTC Jason Mackay
I stand corrected, there is still a confidential classification in AR 380-5, but I have not seen anything marked that was in years
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MCPO Roger Collins
LTC Jason Mackay - It would be very unusual for any branch of the military not to have material that meets the criteria established for Confidential. During my career in communications, those far exceeded the remaining two classifications.
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