Posted on Jan 2, 2014
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Neither Barack Obama nor Joe Biden deserve one ounce of respect. Both are responsible for the loss of life of soldiers these men were unfit to command. Wearing a uniform does not strip one of their right to freedom of speech, and if anybody has earned the right to criticize a Commander in Chief - it's veterans.
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Like it or not, the President is the commander in chief and in your chain of command. Feel free to gripe and grumble, just as you would anyone in your chain of command, but to do so publicly, or on social media carries consequences - it's not allowed. It's against good order and discipline and punishable through the UCMJ. It speaks poorly of anyone on active duty who might do that.
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When I was in from 1985-1993, I never heard anyone openly criticize our President. Some people preferred the other guy during elections. But nothing like we have today where active-duty and guard officers and enlisted personnel of all kinds threaten our current President just because the last guy wants to lie and threaten civil war and uprisings if he's not put back in office. Granted I cannot stand traitor Trump. But I don't him doing anything for this country except destroying democracy. I'm not a Biden fan either, but of the two. He seems to have the countries best interests at heart, unlike Trump.
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So long as our Active Duty/Reserve and in cases Veteran’s follow the orders of our President with out hesitation. Back in my day (78-98),we would always hear “I may not agree with what you have to say, but I’ll defend with my life your right to say it”…
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Ya know its funny the people who signed up fought and died defending the "Freedom of Speech" are now told , or shouldn't be allowed to voice their opinion! I find this to be the biggest crock of horse hockey in this country! Yes I think any veteran or military member should be able to have a comment for or against. No I don't think they should rallies or a coup. But certainly they have aright to denounce the "HELL" we are living in right now!
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It’s called the 1st Amendment. Your not a robot, you can still do you job and duty and criticize the commander in chief
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I am an Army veteran and have no trouble expressing my views on anyone including the President. But, when I was on active duty and latter in the active reserves, I never considered criticizing the Commander-in-Chief while wearing the uniform or otherwise identifying myself as military to the public.
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As is pertains to OBAMA, it is difficult to respect a man who lies, such as being born in Hawaii, coming to the USA on a foreign student visa, changing is name from Soweto to Obama and there is more.
You cannot expect positive feedback from such a person.
In the case of Biden, ONE need not comment as to why he is being talked down.
You cannot expect individuals to voice their opinions. But to whom, how and when becomes an issue.....
You cannot expect positive feedback from such a person.
In the case of Biden, ONE need not comment as to why he is being talked down.
You cannot expect individuals to voice their opinions. But to whom, how and when becomes an issue.....
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PFC Edward Krinsky
There is one sentence this post that is incorrect. The corrected sentence should read"You cannot expect individuals NOT to voice their opinions.
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Personal opinion is they should be allowed to if they are NOT in active duty. But my opinion literally doesn’t matter. It is a possible UCMJ issue.
Article 88 prohibits disparaging comments to people in certain positions. It is extremely rare to have the violation prosecuted. However if the individual is on active duty or it a retired general/admiral, I can see a warning followed by actual prosecution.
The UCMJ sometimes can conflict with our constitutional rights, but when we joined we accepted certain restrictions. Some as minor as our hairstyle, if you have hair, and some as major as free speech.
It’s the military.
Article 88 prohibits disparaging comments to people in certain positions. It is extremely rare to have the violation prosecuted. However if the individual is on active duty or it a retired general/admiral, I can see a warning followed by actual prosecution.
The UCMJ sometimes can conflict with our constitutional rights, but when we joined we accepted certain restrictions. Some as minor as our hairstyle, if you have hair, and some as major as free speech.
It’s the military.
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