Posted on May 23, 2016
SGT Sean O'Hara
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I'm just confused here. How does a SSG have 6 service stripes, that would mean he has been in for 18 plus years since each stripe represents 3 years of service. Any ideas?

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PFC O'Hara
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SSG Brian L.
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I retired after 28 years as a SSG. I never lost rank. I was a victim of poor timing. I went from Active Duty to Army Reserve to Army National Guard as a SPC over an 17 period before I was finally promoted to SGT. At the time, I held 2 MOS designations, 19K and 62B, while the Army was transitioning and closing down units left and right. Promotions were hard to come by. When I moved to Florida and joined the Florida National Guard, I didn't realize that the state had no slots for either 19K or 62B and there was no funding for schools. Finally, after 9/11, funding became available and I reclassed as a 74B (later to be known as 25B) and was deployed several times to both CONUS and OCONUS. During my last couple of years, I was an E-6 sitting in an E-7 25E slot again waiting for funding for ALS and 25E MOS school. There is only one 25E slot in the state and I was bumped out of it in order for a AGR / State Technician could fill the hard slot which put me in an excess slot again. Once it became obvious that I would not be promotable for at least another 3 to 5 years, I decided to retire.

This is my story and I'm sure that others have similar stories especially in the Reserve Component.

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SSG (Ret) Brian Ladley
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SGT Infantryman
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PFC O'Hara, I am a SGT with 7 service stripes. Time in service doesn't equal promotions. The reasons are aplenty!
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SGT Beau Thomas
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SGT Sais Singh, I retired the exact same, 7 service stripes and 5 overseas bars.
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That was normal before the "Wars." Most didn't see SFC till close to 20.
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That is correct for the "BE ALL YOU CAN BE" generation. Making E6, with 15 to 17 years TIS was the norm back in the day unless you were in a combat MOS. It wasn't a race back then to see who can out rank who like it is today.
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He was my PSG in AIT. He was an amazing NCO, but unfortunately it took him a while to get there. He pinned me at graduation and while he was pinning me he gave me a speech about keeping yourself in check because you don't want a bunch of stripes and not the rank to go with it. He told our platoon a lot about how he messed up a lot as a Jr soldier. I met him when he had like 18.5 years in and he was killin it, but he was capped at E6 after getting ucmj too many times at the beginning of his career. So it's safe for you guys to assume the article 15 thing because it's true, but POS? Absolutely not. One if the most inspiring people I have ever met.
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SSG (ret) William Martin
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Ask him.
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SPC Food Service Specialist
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He wouldn't dare. He's not ready for the answer
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SSG (ret) William Martin
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No ma'am, I doubt he is.
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PO3 Wesley Shnaekel
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Haha, rest in peace kid.
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SGT Joseph W.
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PO3 Wesley Shnaekel I laughed out loud!!!!
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There are many reasons. He was not selected for SFC is one possibility. Or even like me, he could have had a break in service...because I am a SSG with 17.5 yrs in total service as I had a 5.5 yr break.
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MSG Counter Measures Analyst
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You can only wear stripes for active federal service AFS.
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SGT Roger Childs
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National Guard I found the worst. Comparatively I saw Army Reserve fare much better
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SFC Senior Human Resources Nco (S1)
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MSG (Join to see) - Nope. Total service based upon your pay entry base date which includes both active and reserve time.
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SPC Jillian O'Malley
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Current RCP for SSG is 20 years. Once you make SSG you can re-up INDEF up to your 20 years mark
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SSG James Creswell
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SSG RCP is 23 years and 26 if in Promotable status
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MSG Senior Career Counselor
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RCP for SSG is 20 years, period. It doesn't matter if said individual is promotable or not. Anyone who went indef prior to the RCP change of a few years back is grandfathered in to the old 23-year RCP.
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SSG Vincent Jauregui
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IVE SEEN SOME SSGs WITH 25/30YRS IN SEVICE......DUE TO NO OPEN SLOTS....
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Eeyup!
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A lot of MOS's it is tough to make E7 because the positions really bottle neck down from a 30 position and therefore he is more than likely a promotable SSG awaiting for his promotion.
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SGT Sean O'Hara
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I appreciate everyone's responses to this post and their knowledgable answers to my question, I didn't know it would get this big of a topic. As a junior enlisted, I don't know many of the different circumstances that would happen in this situation. Thank you very much everyone.
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SSG UH-60 Helicopter Repairer
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The discussion this generated has been *very* interesting, to say the least.
Out of curiosity, what sort of answers did you expect to get?
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SFC Brian Ewing
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You did a great thing PFC, I applaud you for not being afraid to ask, maybe many people didn't understand that you were being genuine in the way you asked because they took it as though you were ridiculing the man for not being higher in rank due to the amount of Service Stripes he had but as you can see there are a plethora of issues and stories/reasons why some have that many stripes and not the high rank one would expect with all those stripes.
I have a similar story to many of them going from Regular Army to the Army Reserve then a break in service then coming back to the Army Reserve going to 4 different Active Duty MOS schools in my career before finally going AGR hitting a dead end MOS for 6 years and then finally being Selected/Promoted to SFC. All being told I had over 28 years of Service being Honorably Discharged while serving my country proudly with 9 Service Stripes. So it isn't as uncommon as you have learned.
Just make sure you teach other junior Enlisted Soldiers in your unit or as you move up in rank the same thing you have learned so that they will not mistake those with a lot of stripes for being some "dirtbag" or other derogatory labels people assume because of having so many Service Stripes.
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SMSgt Lawrence McCarter
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There is nothing wrong with asking. I made SSgt with 4 years service. There was a point however I left the Military after 8 years active duty, came back as a SSgt, which was My rank then, but lost the time in grade as there was an 8 year break in service before I returned. after gaining that time in grade again was promoted to TSgt, MSgt then SMsgt E8 within that added 9 year period . After reaching 22 years turned down E9 and retired. I advanced pretty quickly but not everyone does. If i didn't have the 8 year break in service it would I think it would of been even faster but I have No complaints. There are different reasons We all do or don't do things and hindsight is wonderful.
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I applaud the NCOs who answered this young soldiers question with professionalism and without hurt feelings.

"No one is more professional than I......"

"All Soldiers are entitled to outstanding leadership; I will provide that leadership...."
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PO3 James Bobiney
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Wow! Thank you, LT for saying this. I, and I'm sure we, appreciate it.
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