Posted on Jan 12, 2016
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I am a split option and so I went to basic the previous summer and once I graduate high school I will go to AIT. I'll get back in September from AIT and I will got to my unit in November. I realized that the National Guard isn't for me and so I want to go Active Duty. How long to I have to wait to go Active? What do I have to do to go Active? I keep getting told different things and so now I am even more confused more than ever.
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Edited 5 y ago
Couple of things.
1) You need to talk to an active duty recruiter to make sure you are eligible. That is generally the first step.

2) If you are eligible you must apply for a conditional release from the National Guard (DD Form 368). This is not automatic and will be subject to Arkansas's enlisted numbers as of this time. If they are below strength it will be much more difficult than if they are above.

Other than that, if you aren't released, you will have to wait until your initial enlistment is up and then talk to an active duty recruiter as you get close to your ETS date.

Don't get upset if you are told no initially. You have to understand that you signed a contract and the state of Arkansas just spent a lot of money sending you to basic and possibly AIT.

Good luck though!

Side note: You are a 42A and they are a highly used MOS for AGR (Active) in the Guard. It is similar to active duty in that you are paid active duty pay+BAH based on your rank but you still work for the National Guard.
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CW3 Kevin Storm
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Also keep in mind the Active Army may not need your particular MOS, and may have to send you to a different AIT to become MOSQ.
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LTC Tradoc Capability Manager Abct/Recon
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Remember also that the Active Component is drawing down. You may have to wait awhile. Bottom line, buckle down and train hard, look for opportunities to excell. You'll get out of the Guard (and Active Duty) what you put in to it.
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I was active duty for five years before joining the Guard. I have now been in the Guard for 11 years have had lots of ups and downs and have been everything from Traditional, Temp Tech, Tech and now AGR. If you can get it AGR is the militaries best kept secret. Exactly the same pay and benefits without the multiple deployments and regular Army BS. Keep in mind though, the promotion system in the Guard is very different. I now have three MOS's so I can be able to get promoted. Literally in most cases someone has to die or retire for rank. Also you can be sent anywhere in the state they need you and if you say no you are out of the program.
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Please keep in mind that it is the Guard paying for your training, not big Army. Also, once you get to your unit do not act like you don't want to be there or gripe about how you'd rather be Active. Also, how the heck do you even know the Guard isn't for you? What specifically is it that you don't think is a good fit for you?

Things to keep in mind: Your unit has to agree to release you AND you need to have an Active unit that has a slot for you as well.
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SFC Patrick Machayo
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Didn't know that. Thanks.
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SSG Slover is correct, you will need to turn in a completed DD 368 & a 4187. The ARNG must approve this form for you to go to active duty. When I was in recruiting, I did get a couple split options from the guard, and they were released prior to going active duty. Keep in mind, Units and States can have different policies in regards to releasing members. "Typically" guard members need to be in their units for a minimum of 6 months after completion of training. An Active duty recruiter should know what the policies are for getting members released. Some scenarios where there have been exceptions to policy is if the service member was in a hardship type of scenario financial hardship. If you really wanted to push the issue and obtain a release, write your congressman. It's an extreme measure, however I have seen it work as well.
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PFC Human Resources Specialist
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I don't want anyone into trouble and I have tried to active. I gave my rsp my form and a letter explaining why I wanted to go active and they handed it back to me. They didn't even think about it.
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SFC Adam Potter
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If you turn in the 368/4187 it must go up the chain, and it must be declined in writing by the decision authority. Look up your Unit/Command policies on conditional releases and it should outline the waiting periods and who the decision authority is.
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Please understand that the DD368 should be signed by the recruiter...
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