Posted on Apr 12, 2015
How many know about the chemtrails of Monsanto from planes and how it is killing us and our planet?
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These chemtrails are poison to our planet and the people. IF the trees all die so do we. Does anyone have any ideas how to stop them or is it already to late? I see them all the time up here now. This is also why Utah and places are banning wood smoke from wood stoves fire places and will probably go on to the rest of the states. Many people rely on that to survive for heat. I use it for back up only from the trees that die on my land I never cut them until they die. But how can we honestly stop this before it is to late. Please research this stuff more before answering my question. You, your family and our planet depend on this. And yes Monsanto is involved with the chemicals being sprayed out of the planes and do the pilots no they are being exposed.
I feel these questions involve the leaders, the Fitness, and all people on the planet earth because it does.
http://www.geoengineeringwatch.org/category/chemtrails/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DPnWaBsMYnY
I would like to add another link above which is testimony by many many famous people who know exactly what they are talking about. Our lives are being changed and if you would please really listen to them you may think about this with more openness to the truth.
I feel these questions involve the leaders, the Fitness, and all people on the planet earth because it does.
http://www.geoengineeringwatch.org/category/chemtrails/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DPnWaBsMYnY
I would like to add another link above which is testimony by many many famous people who know exactly what they are talking about. Our lives are being changed and if you would please really listen to them you may think about this with more openness to the truth.
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I am sorry but the chemtrails topic is patently false. Those streaks in the skies are nothing but water vapor trails and not some sinister form of population control. They are actually called 'contrails' and the conspiratorialists are creating yet another scare tactic.
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PV2 Violet Case The military can't stop exposure to chemicals. It is far worse in the middle east. The average life expectancy here is much shorter. I have been exposed to so much more while in the Middle East than in the States. I did go to McClellan for OCS. Chemicals are there. I don't think it is a cover up but just poor knowledge. Just think of the soldiers there were exposed to radiation when they were testing out Nukes in the past. It was just a lack of knowledge.
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PV2 Violet Case
I am sorry 1LT Eric Rosa they out right lied so many time to me and others about what was causing our problems it was proven that in 1966 they new that it was exposed and kept it a secret and told none of us so if that is not a cover up I dont no what is.
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When did you serve, If the 'chem trails' started in the 90's, wasn't that long after you served, based on your uniform in your picture? And maybe you aren't privy to this sort of op.
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PV2 Violet Case
(real proof) NASA official admits chem-trails are real!!
they are real CASE CLOSED this is for the deniers who say they dont exist and that people are crazy. this is a phone call to Douglas Rowland of NASA in which...
SSG (P) Michael LoGuidice DC, I served at Fort McClellan in 78. But testing has already been done for me and I have been hit badly. Bad enough I am at 100% service connected disability. Everyone nos that I must be affected or I would not get that rating. That rating is when you are near dead. They already said at the VA they can't believe I have lived this long. But I keep fighting, but more days each yr are in bed then ever before. And now a nurse comes twice a month. Blood pressure readings have to be sent in 3 times a week along with heart monitoring off and on. Along with 28 pills a day. Yes some days I feel like it won't be long for a few days then a good day comes and I feel pretty good. Actually NASA spoke out and said they began those in 1970 but they stopped spraying in the day time for awhile. But I still see them doing it in the day. I just wondered if anyone had read that Monsanto was involved like those links said because yes to be truthful I fear them and what they can do I no from experience.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jDvQT5sfcJM
Here in this you will find they did spray in the 70's but I was hit with Monsanto at Fort McClellan it was in our drinking water the whole place actually was full of poisons not just from Monsanto either. I wish people would actually look up all the things about Fort McClellan to understand it. ON one they say it was only until 71 but yet in in the 1930's to 1999 it was founded to be the most toxic place on the planet even worse then Camp Lejuene and more then just agent orange. Yes there was Radiation found in the rifle range areas when we were posted there too. I can not explain the nightmare this all has brought into my life and my families. I pray very hard that all you guys in the wars will be ok.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jDvQT5sfcJM
Here in this you will find they did spray in the 70's but I was hit with Monsanto at Fort McClellan it was in our drinking water the whole place actually was full of poisons not just from Monsanto either. I wish people would actually look up all the things about Fort McClellan to understand it. ON one they say it was only until 71 but yet in in the 1930's to 1999 it was founded to be the most toxic place on the planet even worse then Camp Lejuene and more then just agent orange. Yes there was Radiation found in the rifle range areas when we were posted there too. I can not explain the nightmare this all has brought into my life and my families. I pray very hard that all you guys in the wars will be ok.
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Debunking "Contrails don't persist" with 70 years of books on clouds
There's a common belief that "normal" contrails cannot persist. But why do people think this? If you look back at any book on clouds in the last 70 years the...
This is ridiculous. This is something that is made up on junk science and misinformation. This occurrence has been happening for longer than many care to explain. This is just another group that wants to be important and screams for attention.
This just makes no sense to try to alter the climate. If they could do it they need to make it rain in Cali. They are hurting pretty bad. But then why can't they. Because you can't
1. Global jet streams would blow or evaporate it . If you wanted to expose the ground to chemicals you would have to fly low or if you wanted to affect the the atmosphere you would have to fly high enough to affect the whole stream and a quantity large enough that would dissipate once released.
2. Chemicals that are released by planes usually are heavier than air. They have a tendency to fall. Like a Crop Duster. Only a gas could stay in the air like that. Like a cloud which is pretty much gas.
3. If there really wanted to release some sort of gas chemical into the sky why would they make it visible. With the technology we have I am sure someone would have said "Hey, let's make it clear were no one will notice." Most deadly gases are odorless and can't be seen.
If you can please show some science to back this up I would greatly appreciate. This is on par with Global Warming, Cooling, Change, or what ever they call it.
The world pollutes itself. Nature corrects itself. It happened before and it will happen again. We didn't do anything for some of the worst natural disasters in history. But the Ice Age. That was Chemtrails.
This just makes no sense to try to alter the climate. If they could do it they need to make it rain in Cali. They are hurting pretty bad. But then why can't they. Because you can't
1. Global jet streams would blow or evaporate it . If you wanted to expose the ground to chemicals you would have to fly low or if you wanted to affect the the atmosphere you would have to fly high enough to affect the whole stream and a quantity large enough that would dissipate once released.
2. Chemicals that are released by planes usually are heavier than air. They have a tendency to fall. Like a Crop Duster. Only a gas could stay in the air like that. Like a cloud which is pretty much gas.
3. If there really wanted to release some sort of gas chemical into the sky why would they make it visible. With the technology we have I am sure someone would have said "Hey, let's make it clear were no one will notice." Most deadly gases are odorless and can't be seen.
If you can please show some science to back this up I would greatly appreciate. This is on par with Global Warming, Cooling, Change, or what ever they call it.
The world pollutes itself. Nature corrects itself. It happened before and it will happen again. We didn't do anything for some of the worst natural disasters in history. But the Ice Age. That was Chemtrails.
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Don't be so closed minded either. There's no telling what the NSA doesn't want us to find out. I'm not saying it is truth or real, but that I don't know. It is a very interesting topic.
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Yeah but CPT (Join to see) , what am I going to do with all of these tin foil hats I made?
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PV2 Violet Case
The books were all out dated and the picture of the ball did not help a lot I no I live in the far north and not with Santa clause either haha. But I do understand it is colder here then down south. But the big words when it comes to science are hard i even tried to look them up and more big words. But from the bottom of my heart thank you for the time. LTJG Drew Beckham maybe you can sell your tin hats to people who believe in Aliens. This girl doesn't need to buy one just yet and hope never too!
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PV2 Violet Case The books are dated to show that over time this has been happening and will continue. It is nothing new.
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I don't know about the chem-trails but Monsanto has reeked havoc in India. 250,000 Indian farmers have killed themselves because of Monsanto's costly seeds and pesticides. If you use Monsanto pesticides only Monsanto seeds will grow in the soil. Every 30 minutes an Indian farmer commits suicide due to use of their products. Not surprisingly these are the same guys that came up with Agent Orange and said it was safe. The attached article shows just how embedded they are into the FDA which is a very scary thought.
http://www.vanityfair.com/news/2008/05/monsanto200805
http://www.vanityfair.com/news/2008/05/monsanto200805
Monsanto’s Cruel, and Dangerous, Monopolization on American Farming
Monsanto dominates America’s food chain with ruthless tactics, waging a debilitating war against small farmers. Even worse, the company has a decades-long history of toxic contamination.
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Col Kyle Taylor
With a population of over 1.25 billion people, I have no doubt there are numerous suicides, especially in an impoverished nation but I doubt it is because of the seeds etc. look at the social make up and perhaps you will see other reasons instead of yet another conspiracy.
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1SG Scott MacGregor
Do you ever eat seedless watermellons? Ever stop to wonder how they became "seedless"? That was done through GMO, Genetically Modified Organism. The same technology that gave us seedless watermellons has also given us other GMO seeds, corn, wheat, ect. How do we feed hillions of people on resourses that are becomming more and more scarce. Lts tak a look in CA with the 4 year drought. We still need to grow food but with limited water, how do we accomplish this? GMO, drought resistant strains of corn can grow a good harvest in the driest conditions, good harvest for short day corn in climates with a short growing cyle. We wont survive with out the GMOs to help us along. It can take generations for a natural change in grow cycles and adjustments to climates, science has enabled us to make changes needed in a short period of time.
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SPC David S.
I know currently GMOs may be more resilient to plant diseases and require less pesticides. However as nature is very persistent I see this as only a short term fix as diseases will often mutate and become more resilient as well making it harder to combat. Imagine some blight that is essentially untreatable down the road because of GMO tinkering. Now normal corn wont grow in the soil, modified GMO corn killed off by new super blight. I just don't think its a good idea to mess with mother nature. GMO's present some risky unknown butterfly effects.
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PV2 Violet Case
1SG Scott MacGregor, we in northern MN in a cold climate were doing fine with growing our own food and would trade with neighbors if one garden grew to much of one and not the other. We were managing just fine. Now all of a sudden the seeds do not grow very well. They are wanting to make it illegal for us to trade our non gmo seeds or our garden foods to help feed one another. How does making that illegal help us to feed our people? I no petitions are being drawn up now to fight this but with all in office that had connections with Monsanto not sure how far it will go. But our people will not back down easily and starve when we do not have to. It is our right to survival it is in our nature. Many women used to come together and help one another can up much food now we are lucky if the seeds grow at all to even feed our own. This makes no sense. We up here grow organically and have done it for many years successfully until the past few years.
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We can disagree without becoming unprofessional. We can also pose questions in a way that doesn't make them one sided either. If you throw something out that people don't agree with, it is their right to call you out on it. Just keep it from being a personal attack and keep it professional. If anyone feels obligated to call anyone crazy, feel free to direct all your comments to me. My meds are working GREAT.
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Probably, but when it comes to someone who claims to be retired after one year in service and their profile picture is a woman in a t-shirt and Class A jacket? I'm less inclined to be professional.
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PV2 Violet Case
SSG Alexander VanArsdall, 1. they do not give an area to put permanent unemployable 100% service connected disabled veterans, that pretty much means retired and done with work. This is due to the exposure and it was the worst in history. But then if you were educated on your military history you would no that is not a T-shirt but the full dress green uniform we were issued back then. You should all also be a bit careful because I may word things not quite the way you feel the questions should be addressed. But the United States Senate must feel my topics are interesting and information. Because I am sent letters from the United States Senate, Washington DC 20510-2309 with question of how they can help in situations. Some topics address the way others react to us, what are some of the things that make soldiers want to commit suicide. How can we better the Choice Card and yes this all goes into my reports to them. Thank you for your help in how to answer the next letter everyone it has been nice to get help in how to respond to such letters. And a friend from RP gave me the following link to share from NASA themselves with what they are doing when they started it and a name and email you can write to with any questions.
The administrative staff here works over time to try to do their best at what they can here. But this type of situation from comments like these need to be addressed and will be. Have a lovely day and please get educated on you military history before you speak next time. You see I am not here to show off or worry about points and who I can hurt to get them this is a test.
http://www.geoengineeringwatch.org%2Fnasa-admits-chemtrails%2F&h=QAQGM3eqE
The administrative staff here works over time to try to do their best at what they can here. But this type of situation from comments like these need to be addressed and will be. Have a lovely day and please get educated on you military history before you speak next time. You see I am not here to show off or worry about points and who I can hurt to get them this is a test.
http://www.geoengineeringwatch.org%2Fnasa-admits-chemtrails%2F&h=QAQGM3eqE
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Oh, I'm quite familiar with the uniforms of the time. And no, none of them had a shirt like yours. Nice try, though.
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PV2 Violet Case
SSG Alexander VanArsdall, are you saying that this whole group of women from my year book at fort McClellan are lies? Yes I am afraid it was our dress greens in 78 that we were issued. You call me a lier here when it is in front of your face. We are even marching with our drill Sargent. And when I can I will even get the year book out because there is a page in there where they were fitting us for those dress green uniforms too. You are surely not educated in the 70's era of the womens military winter dress greens. So all these women were also faking hahaha..
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OK, lemme give you the simple, logical explanation of "chem trails"... this is based on 4th grade science and years of experience with turbine engines.
When anything burns it produces ash. In the case of internal combustion engines there is very little ash and it is very fine. I tore down thousands of turbine engine hot ends and they all had this ash.
Next, you have to realize that there is water vapor in air. You can almost feel it on a humid day. At high altitude the temperatures are cool enough for that water vapor to condense, but it has nothing to condense to... (think of a glass of ice water on a humid day).
When an airplane passes through this layer of air and the conditions are right the ash from the engine gives the water vapor something to condense to. Just like making a cloud.
When anything burns it produces ash. In the case of internal combustion engines there is very little ash and it is very fine. I tore down thousands of turbine engine hot ends and they all had this ash.
Next, you have to realize that there is water vapor in air. You can almost feel it on a humid day. At high altitude the temperatures are cool enough for that water vapor to condense, but it has nothing to condense to... (think of a glass of ice water on a humid day).
When an airplane passes through this layer of air and the conditions are right the ash from the engine gives the water vapor something to condense to. Just like making a cloud.
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PV2 Violet Case
Thank you so very much SPC David Hannaman, Sorry since my (stroke) cardiovascular accident I had lost much comprehension and memory of some things. And yes at times I need things explained like a child especially if I have others trying to explain in big scientific words I do not understand But I was never very good at science to begin with. But when people like you are kind enough to explain this is very nice of you. Thank you again.
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SPC David Hannaman
Glad to Help PV2 Violet Case. I've chased many "conspiracy theories" down rabbit holes over the years and have come to the personal conclusion that the majority of the time there's more misinformation out there to confuse the issue and distract from the real problems than there is real problems.
I hope you're feeling better.
I hope you're feeling better.
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Ignoring Monsanto itself for just a moment, remember that the cross pollination between government & high end corporate jobs is HUGE.
The overlap of skill sets is so tailored that it's inevitable.
I'm a former Intel Analyst. When I got out the military, I had a specific set of skills which led me to be either a GS employee or a Government Contractor. I went the Contractor route. People that I went to school with were GS employees. A year later they were Contractors, while contractors I worked with became GS~.
This happens at low level, and high level. Just because you end up knowing everyone in your field.
If you are the "expert" in Agriculture, you will end up on both sides of the fence over the course of your career. Just like the head of the FCC, or the Vice President (D. Cheney). It's impossible not to.
That doesn't mean the above list doesn't show 'potential' conflict of interests. It likely has some real ones. But some of those people may be 'employee in name only' or 'former employee' and the list is designed to create a monster under the bed, rather than portray a true image.
The overlap of skill sets is so tailored that it's inevitable.
I'm a former Intel Analyst. When I got out the military, I had a specific set of skills which led me to be either a GS employee or a Government Contractor. I went the Contractor route. People that I went to school with were GS employees. A year later they were Contractors, while contractors I worked with became GS~.
This happens at low level, and high level. Just because you end up knowing everyone in your field.
If you are the "expert" in Agriculture, you will end up on both sides of the fence over the course of your career. Just like the head of the FCC, or the Vice President (D. Cheney). It's impossible not to.
That doesn't mean the above list doesn't show 'potential' conflict of interests. It likely has some real ones. But some of those people may be 'employee in name only' or 'former employee' and the list is designed to create a monster under the bed, rather than portray a true image.
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Capt Bob Abbott
I'm going to agree with Aaron here. I'm not a fan of Monsanto by any means, but I'd like to compare this chart to one for GE, Google, Ford, etc. I think you will see a similar pattern.
Essentially, correlation does not necessitate causation.
Now Violet, I understand you're a victim. Then you have a motivation to get the truth out there, and I heartily applaud that. This chart however, in my very humble opinion, does not serve your purpose well. Perhaps there is another info graphic that could convey your message while tying in the issues? I say this with compassion and not in any way haughtily. Good luck to you in the fight.
Essentially, correlation does not necessitate causation.
Now Violet, I understand you're a victim. Then you have a motivation to get the truth out there, and I heartily applaud that. This chart however, in my very humble opinion, does not serve your purpose well. Perhaps there is another info graphic that could convey your message while tying in the issues? I say this with compassion and not in any way haughtily. Good luck to you in the fight.
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Agreed Aaron. I've done the exact contractor/GS flip in the same market you're talking about. Its the nature of the beast in some industries.
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PV2 Violet Case
If you come up with anything that can help me help others at Ft. McClellan please do so. I just can not fight the fight with all that. I just cry so often because had I not shown symptoms while in the military I would get no help if it was not proven for me. But some of these sit doormat for a long time and those who are now sick later once out and it is from there do not get help because the HR411 has not passed to many are affected. I only want to see them get the help they need. I am sitting fine here financially not my health tho they could have their money to give me my life and health back but as the VA doctors said they can not undo what they did and even said I will get worse before I ever get better and they are mentally trying to prepare me to understand I am dying from it. 3 yrs in the making and I still have a hard time with this. I pray for everyone who could ever be affected and would never want this on anyone. I just need help pushing the HR 411 to help other veterans. And yes it is not helping my health but it became a goal to let as many no as I can if they were there at FT. Mac and have health troubles why. It was getting harder and harder for my civilian doctors to many things were wrong and at to young of age or for no reasons to them. Now we all have our answers but still to this day they promised to notify all who served there it has been since 1978 for me and I just found out by accident first. Please help pass the word and try to understand I do not mean troubles but am so afraid of Monsanto and anyone connected to it. Thank you for any professional kindness you show. bless you.
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Sgt Aaron Kennedy, MS
PV2 Violet Case Anything I can think of, I'll let you know. I let issues like this stew in my brain for a while, and generally track them as well. If I see, here, or think of anything, I'll send a message or pop up a post.
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If you believe this. I'd like to sell you the London bridge in Arizona, or beach front property, again in Arizona! LOL Sorry I just couldn't help myself. I guess some of that stuff got on me!!!!
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SGT Anthony Bussing
actually...the original london bridge IS in Arizona...lol...at Lake Havasu...I know...I almost ran into it on a drunken weekend with my fellow Marines, a pontoon boat and more then several cases of beer and tequila...lol
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PV2 Violet Case
SGT Anthony Bussing at least I am smart enough to know that it is not owned by people who offer to sell lol
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PV2 Violet Case
Yes thank you LT Collin Souba, I was not born yesterday, I just find it interesting that after all these yrs some men are still the same and will cut a woman down with sarcasm the first chance they have. I expected more out of the men of military when I went in and found out men were not all like my Uncles. But quite the opposite and find the old time guys are still the same with their cute downs.
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Let's not forget the toxic exposure to those at Fort McClellan when Anniston, AL was identified as the most toxic city in the U.S. Of A. 700 million in damages was paid to civilians while not one cent was paid to any military member. When you consider they share the same water supply system.
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PV2 Violet Case
Thank you SGM David W.F Carr LOM DMSM Also remember how many have died already from it and who suffer from it now.
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To all those who helped me to understand better I would like to thank you for this. Since the VA has explained the situation at FT McClellan I followed as much as I could to try to learn on my own what has happened, why, and what has caused all this so have my civilian doctors and friends. I agree with many of you that there is to much mis information out there. I figured coming here I would get help with the truth and was not expecting some of the reactions I had gotten.
If you were told you are sick and dying and it was from all that exposure and health becomes worse as a human wouldn't you like to know some answers and maybe get help in things to do to try to help yourself? I respected the men from the military and veterans to have hearts and to be kind to help me if they can to no the truth when people send me links thinking they help in the civilian life I was getting these types of links. So I counted on fellow brothers and sisters here to be helpful because I was sent links of chemtrails, geotrails and more. Having these problems are hard enough. And I thought this was a site to help one another. But I will no better then to ask anymore about things unless to those I have learned I can trust here.
I do apologize that this got so wild I was just trying to learn the truth. I was once very smart at things on my own but after my last heart trouble my memory and comprehension has been affected. I don't think you make fun of people who have had strokes do you? But that does not mean I have no feelings or heart at all. I have learned tho that maybe this site is not here to help disabled veterans if they have questions or are disabled from military. Again sorry.
If you were told you are sick and dying and it was from all that exposure and health becomes worse as a human wouldn't you like to know some answers and maybe get help in things to do to try to help yourself? I respected the men from the military and veterans to have hearts and to be kind to help me if they can to no the truth when people send me links thinking they help in the civilian life I was getting these types of links. So I counted on fellow brothers and sisters here to be helpful because I was sent links of chemtrails, geotrails and more. Having these problems are hard enough. And I thought this was a site to help one another. But I will no better then to ask anymore about things unless to those I have learned I can trust here.
I do apologize that this got so wild I was just trying to learn the truth. I was once very smart at things on my own but after my last heart trouble my memory and comprehension has been affected. I don't think you make fun of people who have had strokes do you? But that does not mean I have no feelings or heart at all. I have learned tho that maybe this site is not here to help disabled veterans if they have questions or are disabled from military. Again sorry.
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MSG David Chappell
First if you have questions conduct research snopes.com great place to start. Second open with a question not a statement. Your posting looked more like a proposal than a question. It simply made you seem to be supporting a conspiracy theory instead of seeking answers.
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PV2 Violet Case
(real proof) NASA official admits chem-trails are real!!
they are real CASE CLOSED this is for the deniers who say they dont exist and that people are crazy. this is a phone call to Douglas Rowland of NASA in which...
I did already admit that I had not worded it like I should I was confused on how to ask or put it out there. I can't do any more then that because I was confused between what looked and sounded real to what was possibly not. But now nasa has put out a confession of it. So NASA has given the answer, the show of the blast off what year it began what is in it and an email straight to the scientist email at NASA to send to ask questions now. I did not record this but someone else had questions too but was brave enough to actually do that and it brought NASA out to explain it. So yes my question was a question at the time but in a way a statement because I wanted to know and guess we all have the right to no if something is being done and prayed or anything to our lives dont we?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jDvQT5sfcJM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jDvQT5sfcJM
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