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I am a recruiter for the Navy and I constantly have "battles" with people who are interested in the Marine Corps and Army and I tell them that not everyone will see combat and that in fact if you are infantry/medic/truck driver you pretty much don't leave the base you're at. Is that a true statement? I'm not a huge fan at all about being a liar just to get people to join. Just trying to get my facts straight. Thanks
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"if you are infantry/medic/truck driver you pretty much don't leave the base you're at."
WTF do you think the Infantry and Combat Medics do?????
WTF do you think the Infantry and Combat Medics do?????
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SP5 Norman McGill
All very true SSG(P) Danielle Birtha but consider the supply line for each and every one of the people you mentioned and there could easily be 8 troops behind each soldier involved. That supply line does not begin 'In-country' but all the way back to the States.
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SSG(P) Danielle Birtha
SP5 Norman McGill - Yes... there are many in the U.S. supporting those in Combat... more than 8 per soldier... BUT ... they are not dodging bullets... they are not putting their lives on the line in their Stateside support of War.
I speak of the Heros who dodge bullets... on the combat field.
Air Traffic Control (my MOS) is the first target... 5 second life expectancy on enemy contact.
DON'T be a National Socialist DEMOCRATIC on my posts...
I said what I said...
What I didn't say is not part of what I said.
Everyone in Uniform is a Soldier.. but ONLY those dodging bullets are doing things heroic... everyone else is just doing their job to support the ones who are dying for THE FREEDOM OF OTHERS... NO THOUGHT OF SELF AS THEY FIGHT, AND DIE, FOR OUR FREEDOM.
Trying to re-word my words... is a mistake.
NOTE: Air Traffic Control requires much more intelligence than most jobs...
If YOU don't like my statements...
Do NOT stick your dirty fingers in MY mouth in an attempt to rearrange MY words, TO SUIT YOUR AGENDA...
I WILL BITE YOUR FINGERS OFF.
Do it again... you will never speak to my posts again.
I do NOT hesitate to defend myself from any enemy... especially an enemy who believes they have the right to control my thoughts, and what I say.
DO NOT BE MY ENEMY, IF YOU EXPECT KIND WORDS FROM ME.
YOU CAN TAKE MY PATRIOTISM... WHEN YOU HAVE PRIED IT FROM MY COLD DEAD BRAIN >(
YOU CAN MAKE ME BOW TO YOU... BY POSING ME... AFTER YOU HAVE KILLED ME... AND NOT A MOMENT BEFORE >(
"I Pledge Allegiance to the Flag... OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA... AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS..."
--> AND... NO... OTHERS >(
"WE THE PEOPLE.... OF ... THE ... UNITED ... STATES ..."
--> AND ... NO ... OTHERS >(
DUTY - HONOR - COUNTRY
BE U.S. ... OR ... BE GONE! >(
I speak of the Heros who dodge bullets... on the combat field.
Air Traffic Control (my MOS) is the first target... 5 second life expectancy on enemy contact.
DON'T be a National Socialist DEMOCRATIC on my posts...
I said what I said...
What I didn't say is not part of what I said.
Everyone in Uniform is a Soldier.. but ONLY those dodging bullets are doing things heroic... everyone else is just doing their job to support the ones who are dying for THE FREEDOM OF OTHERS... NO THOUGHT OF SELF AS THEY FIGHT, AND DIE, FOR OUR FREEDOM.
Trying to re-word my words... is a mistake.
NOTE: Air Traffic Control requires much more intelligence than most jobs...
If YOU don't like my statements...
Do NOT stick your dirty fingers in MY mouth in an attempt to rearrange MY words, TO SUIT YOUR AGENDA...
I WILL BITE YOUR FINGERS OFF.
Do it again... you will never speak to my posts again.
I do NOT hesitate to defend myself from any enemy... especially an enemy who believes they have the right to control my thoughts, and what I say.
DO NOT BE MY ENEMY, IF YOU EXPECT KIND WORDS FROM ME.
YOU CAN TAKE MY PATRIOTISM... WHEN YOU HAVE PRIED IT FROM MY COLD DEAD BRAIN >(
YOU CAN MAKE ME BOW TO YOU... BY POSING ME... AFTER YOU HAVE KILLED ME... AND NOT A MOMENT BEFORE >(
"I Pledge Allegiance to the Flag... OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA... AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS..."
--> AND... NO... OTHERS >(
"WE THE PEOPLE.... OF ... THE ... UNITED ... STATES ..."
--> AND ... NO ... OTHERS >(
DUTY - HONOR - COUNTRY
BE U.S. ... OR ... BE GONE! >(
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SSG(P) Danielle Birtha
GO AHEAD FASCISTS... SAY I AM MENTALLY ILL FOR BEING A LOYAL PATRIOT TO MY COUNTRY... WHEN IT'S THE ONLY COUNTRY IN THE WORLD WORTH BEING LOYAL TO...
--> ALL THE REST ARE CONTROLLED BY DICTATORS OF ONE DEGREE OR ANOTHER >(
IF YOU LIKE BEING OPPRESSED AND DICTATED TO...
PICK A COUNTRY... ANY COUNTRY... GO THERE...
GET THE $#@% OUT OF MY FREE AND DEMOCRATIC NATION WITH YOUR FASCIST OPPRESSIVE BULL POOP >(
WE DON'T PLAY THAT SNOT IN THE U.S.A. >(
40 MILLION WELL TRAINED AND BLOODED IN BATTLE U.S. MILITARY VETERANS STAND READY TO DEFEND THIS NATION... WHILE OUR PUBLIC SERVANTS HAVE OUR ACTIVE DUTY SOLDIERS BUSY IN THE MIDDLE EAST PROTECTING THE ENEMY WHO ATTACKED U.S. ON 9/11/2001 ... FROM THEIR ENEMIES...
PAY ATTENTION --> WE THE PEOPLE... WHO WERE ATTACK BY SAUDI ARABIA... ARE NOW COMMANDED... BY OUR CONGRESS... TO DIE DEFENDING OUR ENEMIES... BY LAW... INSTEAD OF DEFENDING U.S. FROM OUR ENEMIES? >(
REALLY... U.S. SOLDIERS?
YOU JOINED THE MILITARY TO PROTECT OUR ENEMIES... FROM U.S.?
TO AID OUR ENEMIES TO TAKE OUR COUNTRY AWAY FROM U.S. VIA TRADE LAWS THAT TRADE U.S. TO OUR ENEMIES... BY LAW... WHILE YOU PROTECT THOSE ENEMIES... WHILE YOUR FAMILIES, FRIENDS, AND COUNTRY, ARE FLOUNDERING IN YOUR TREASON OF AIDING OUR ENEMIES... BY LAWS THAT ARE LEGISLATED TREASON????
--> READ THE CONSTITUTION YOU SWORE TO PROTECT AND DEFEND FROM ALL ENEMIES, FOREIGN... --> AND DOMESTIC <--
SEE THAT OUR GOVERNMENT IS VERY BROKEN, AS OUR PUBLIC SERVANTS LEGISLATE IN FAVOR OF OUR ENEMIES... AGAINST THE NEEDS, AND LAWS... OF WE THE PEOPLE OF THE UNITED STATES.
--> ALL THE REST ARE CONTROLLED BY DICTATORS OF ONE DEGREE OR ANOTHER >(
IF YOU LIKE BEING OPPRESSED AND DICTATED TO...
PICK A COUNTRY... ANY COUNTRY... GO THERE...
GET THE $#@% OUT OF MY FREE AND DEMOCRATIC NATION WITH YOUR FASCIST OPPRESSIVE BULL POOP >(
WE DON'T PLAY THAT SNOT IN THE U.S.A. >(
40 MILLION WELL TRAINED AND BLOODED IN BATTLE U.S. MILITARY VETERANS STAND READY TO DEFEND THIS NATION... WHILE OUR PUBLIC SERVANTS HAVE OUR ACTIVE DUTY SOLDIERS BUSY IN THE MIDDLE EAST PROTECTING THE ENEMY WHO ATTACKED U.S. ON 9/11/2001 ... FROM THEIR ENEMIES...
PAY ATTENTION --> WE THE PEOPLE... WHO WERE ATTACK BY SAUDI ARABIA... ARE NOW COMMANDED... BY OUR CONGRESS... TO DIE DEFENDING OUR ENEMIES... BY LAW... INSTEAD OF DEFENDING U.S. FROM OUR ENEMIES? >(
REALLY... U.S. SOLDIERS?
YOU JOINED THE MILITARY TO PROTECT OUR ENEMIES... FROM U.S.?
TO AID OUR ENEMIES TO TAKE OUR COUNTRY AWAY FROM U.S. VIA TRADE LAWS THAT TRADE U.S. TO OUR ENEMIES... BY LAW... WHILE YOU PROTECT THOSE ENEMIES... WHILE YOUR FAMILIES, FRIENDS, AND COUNTRY, ARE FLOUNDERING IN YOUR TREASON OF AIDING OUR ENEMIES... BY LAWS THAT ARE LEGISLATED TREASON????
--> READ THE CONSTITUTION YOU SWORE TO PROTECT AND DEFEND FROM ALL ENEMIES, FOREIGN... --> AND DOMESTIC <--
SEE THAT OUR GOVERNMENT IS VERY BROKEN, AS OUR PUBLIC SERVANTS LEGISLATE IN FAVOR OF OUR ENEMIES... AGAINST THE NEEDS, AND LAWS... OF WE THE PEOPLE OF THE UNITED STATES.
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We don't live and fight in a linear combat theater anymore. The concept of support strictly staying behind the line and only combat arms doing the shooting is so far outdated it's laughable. I know dozens of infantry that never left the FOB for any real combat mission, and I know dozens of support and non combat troops who ducked bullets everyday. Today's theater the most dangerous job is 88M, a truck driver. More troops are killed by IDF and IEDS than with small arms fire. In my sector, it was artillery and MPS running patrols and convoys. It was AF pulling security, and it was Navy sweeping up with EOD. That was 06 in the Surge. There were medics and corpsmen that never left wire and there were some that never pulled sick call once. I treated just as many "fobbits" for combat related injuries as I did others for wounds sustained outside the wire. This whole only infantry go out and take hits is the biggest lie we keep telling ourselves in today's combat. Our enemies do not fight on even ground with us, they do not engage our infantry in close combat regularly because they know they get wiped in most situations. They bomb our check points, lob IDF into our bases, shoot at our convoys and choppers. Sure they ambush infantry patrols but not the frequency we are historically used to in previous conflicts. Yes a grunt will see more direct combat, but we all generally have been shot at at some point regardless of MOD
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CPT Jim Kotva
SFC Larry Triplett - I agree I knew a couple of 88M that got really messed up because of IED's. I also remember reading about a company of 88M early in the war that refused to drive because of not having any armor on their trucks and getting IED's almost every time they went out of the wire
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1LT (Join to see)
We used to say when they get through the wire at 3am, they don’t bother checking MOS’s!
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SPC Richard Stengline
64C in Honduras got tasked with carrying a 60 do not need you try drive we need a 60 gunner and you are it.
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Sit down with the Marine recruiters in your office and ask them the same question. We had very open lines of communication with the Marines I recruited with. The more you all know about what's offered by all branches, what they do, and what their restrictions are, the better you ALL can help your applicants find what they are looking for.
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LCDR Stephen Holmes
LTC Joe Anderson - Having a hard time seeing it clearly. We count the bars, not the spaces between them, so you may be right. Cheers!
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LTC Joe Anderson
LCDR Stephen Holmes - You are correct. I only saw two bars in looking closer I can see the upper bar. Thanks!
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CPO John Bjorge
I use to tell them it all depends what you want to do. I was aviation and I was asked if I was a pilot. It was the days of Top Gun and everyone wanted to fly.
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Sgt Dale Briggs
My son AF attached to Army, he’s Combat Weather. His first day at FOB Salerno a mortar killed two 10th Mountain guys. They were mortared or rocketed multiple times a week, so where’s the line here? You can get killed anywhere it’s why the planes and helicopters do tactical landings, they do it dark and fast, they get down get them out get the hell out. This dodging bullets is nonsense everyone in country is in real danger every day, and those truck drivers are moving a prime target.
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