Posted on May 11, 2018
How should I handle a situation where I think my soldier is autistic?
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I am currently re-classing and I have a soldier that just came out of boot, I am legitimately concerned my soldier is Autistic and I have no idea what to do about this situation.........
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Step 1: Relax. Truth be told, damn near everybody falls somewhere on the spectrum.
Step 2: Nothing wrong with your concerns, just don't try arm-chair diagnosis; you're not qualified, and it won't help him/her or you. No telling what the underlying problem might be.
Step 3: If his/her behavior interferes with the mission or is dangerous, do not ignore that! Talk to your chain-of-command, go to behavioral health (or see if they're willing to go with you). If they are just odd but technically and tactically proficient, continue to work with him/her soldier to soldier; even more so if you're their team leader.
Step 4: Good luck. Okay, that's not really a "step", but there you go anyway.
Step 2: Nothing wrong with your concerns, just don't try arm-chair diagnosis; you're not qualified, and it won't help him/her or you. No telling what the underlying problem might be.
Step 3: If his/her behavior interferes with the mission or is dangerous, do not ignore that! Talk to your chain-of-command, go to behavioral health (or see if they're willing to go with you). If they are just odd but technically and tactically proficient, continue to work with him/her soldier to soldier; even more so if you're their team leader.
Step 4: Good luck. Okay, that's not really a "step", but there you go anyway.
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SGT (Join to see)
We work in a hospital laboratory and his actions puts patients lives at risk however there is very little chain of command at our location since we are both considered "students" I have been trying to talk to our coordinator here at the hospital but I have been in the army about as long as him and we both don't know what to do. My brother is autistic but thanks to great therapy has gotten better and they both act in very similar mannerisms.
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LTC David Brown
Excellent advice. Talk to the soldier to determine if he has a personal problem that maybe influencing his behavior so he can be guided to appropriate help.
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Sgt Christine Magnan
Great advice. If you want more information without involving your chain of command or to just be better informed to advocate for your soldier contact the National Autism Association or the Autism Society. Your local United Way would possibly know of local groups. Be sure to protect the person's identity if you do not have permission to share details.
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Thanks for taking a look at this. Autism isn't an onset condition, it typically develops and comes out in a child shortly after birth. If a soldier is on the spectrum hopefully they are going to know it already because they have a diagnosis and have received help in throughout their school years. It would be very rare in this day and age for a family not to have recognized behaviors since early childhood and gotten assistance. Their condition is probably not something they are going to come out with openly because they have been working hard at overcoming their condition and modeling their behaviors.
Stimming - an almost involuntary urge to move - shrugging, head nodding, walking around, lack of direct eye contact & turning away while listening, lack of filtering in communications - say it as they see it with no regard to feelings, a tendency to be a loner with not much social interaction and by the book behavior - black or white obedience/adherence with no shades of gray are some signs that you may be seeing. If they have made it into the military then they are definitely high functioning meaning they are fully capable of adapting - with encouragement and sometimes repetition - and keeping up with their "typical" peers.
I have just given you the description of my 17 year old son who was diagnosed with pervasive developmental disorder at 3 years old. He's a junior in high school, an honor role college prep student, writes for the school newspaper, acts in the drama club and is college bound. Yes he has the "quirks" described but if you saw him in the hall or out in public you'd never think twice about him. That's after 14 years of getting him the assistance and scholastic intervention needed for him to be successful.
That is probably the background (I would hope) of the individual you are describing. As other esteemed colleagues have said, try to understand what autism is in that soldier's case - if you had 1000 people with autism, you'd have 1000 different variations of symptoms. Seek help from health professionals to that end. The last thing a higher functioning individual wants is to be treated differently where its noticeable. My son is almost defiant to his specific education provisions - getting extra time on tests, redoing work if the grade is less than 75 and having a teacher's aid available to him. He doesn't want to be treated any different than his friends Treat him just as you would every other soldier but provide them the additional help they may need with a mentor soldier.
My best to you and your soldier.
Stimming - an almost involuntary urge to move - shrugging, head nodding, walking around, lack of direct eye contact & turning away while listening, lack of filtering in communications - say it as they see it with no regard to feelings, a tendency to be a loner with not much social interaction and by the book behavior - black or white obedience/adherence with no shades of gray are some signs that you may be seeing. If they have made it into the military then they are definitely high functioning meaning they are fully capable of adapting - with encouragement and sometimes repetition - and keeping up with their "typical" peers.
I have just given you the description of my 17 year old son who was diagnosed with pervasive developmental disorder at 3 years old. He's a junior in high school, an honor role college prep student, writes for the school newspaper, acts in the drama club and is college bound. Yes he has the "quirks" described but if you saw him in the hall or out in public you'd never think twice about him. That's after 14 years of getting him the assistance and scholastic intervention needed for him to be successful.
That is probably the background (I would hope) of the individual you are describing. As other esteemed colleagues have said, try to understand what autism is in that soldier's case - if you had 1000 people with autism, you'd have 1000 different variations of symptoms. Seek help from health professionals to that end. The last thing a higher functioning individual wants is to be treated differently where its noticeable. My son is almost defiant to his specific education provisions - getting extra time on tests, redoing work if the grade is less than 75 and having a teacher's aid available to him. He doesn't want to be treated any different than his friends Treat him just as you would every other soldier but provide them the additional help they may need with a mentor soldier.
My best to you and your soldier.
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That's exactly how my own brother is as well sir and the soldier in question has established himself very well academically and has gotten very good grades on all of his written exams he just struggles when working in the laboratory because he has a roadblock when it comes to applying what he has memorized and studied in books to his work. He has made multiple mistakes while working in the lab because he gets frustrated at the pace and when he gets a special sample that needs to be treated differently than the others he tends to freak out because he isn't used to it and will end up trying to run it like any other normal blood/serum. I wouldn't care if I was back in my old MOS seeing as artillery doesn't require much and is always straight forward, however in this current job his actions could end up putting other peoples lives in danger\
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MAJ Robert (Bob) Petrarca
SGT (Join to see) - I completely agree, he needs to be in an environment where he is in his comfort zone. If you tell me son to do something he is not used to or that interrupts his routine he gets very anxious about how it will affect everything. Last week there was an event outside of school he was invited to go to and he got all flustered about missing school and assignments. His teachers got him through it, explaining he could make up the work and shouldn't miss the opportunity to go to this lunch event, but it took a few days for him to be at ease with it. I completely understand where you are coming from with that concern and it should be addressed with the chain of command to find a position that better suits his, I hate to say abilities, but his temperament and tolerance. There's a lot of us typical people who have to watch that stuff so hopefully he takes the change for what it is worth if explained correctly.
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1. Don't panic, and certainly don't make any knee-jerk decisions.
2. Learn about autism.
3. Get him/her some professional assistance, as needed.
4. Don't let anyone else complicate or take advantage of the situation.
5. Embrace the leadership challenge.
2. Learn about autism.
3. Get him/her some professional assistance, as needed.
4. Don't let anyone else complicate or take advantage of the situation.
5. Embrace the leadership challenge.
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A1C Medrick "Rick" DeVaney
EXACTLY... And There Are MANY Level Of Autism...
Probably Many Of US Are Autistic, But Were Never Diagnosed,
As It May Have Gone Totally Unnoticeable By Everyone, Even Your Doctors.
Probably Many Of US Are Autistic, But Were Never Diagnosed,
As It May Have Gone Totally Unnoticeable By Everyone, Even Your Doctors.
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Take a deep breath. This is relatively simple. First remind yourself you are not a doctor (unless you are). You discuss with your leadership sharing your concerns. From there your command should take over. I will say that I find it hard to believe that this would not be caught at MEPS, basic or AIT. In any case put it in the hands of your command. Thank you for your service.
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MAJ Robert (Bob) Petrarca
CSM, they wouldn't necessarily catch it anywhere. Autism is not something detectable in a typical sense like a blood test, its strictly behavioral observation and someone in MEPS would not observe someone long enough to think anything more then the person is "quirky". If they made it this far then they are pretty high functioning. Basic would be the most likely place that a DI would notice a-typical responses to different training situations & stresses and interact with and observe that individual.
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Continue to be a support for the soldier. Don't judge. As others have said talk to your chain of command. The most you can do for this soldier is to be a leader and be sure they are being taken care of. Plus dealing with this situation will give you experience with dealing with soldiers and the unique issues that they have.
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Ask him and then go from there. Most Autistic people are textile learners. So having them do things hands on helps.
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There’s always a higher echelon of command you report to. Whether that mean you write a very tactful email or letter to your division officer or officer in charge, that’s on you. No need to take it high and to the right unless it directly effects patient care. If it falls on patient care, find your next echelon of command. I was a PCM for a sailor who was discharged on a similar accord. Follow your guidance on disciplinary action at your level to “treat the symptoms”. Discipline the service member based on his lapses in judgement and for the mishaps that happen. Good luck!
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MAJ Robert (Bob) Petrarca
Just to clarify, you don't "treat the symptoms" of autism. You educate yourself about autism and how to respond to that individual. An individual who has made it into the military is most likely very high functioning and has disciplined themselves to a degree to model their typical peers. Please see my detailed response.
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I tell the Mrs. all the time that "I'm seriously concerned the boy is on the spectrum" in reference to my stepson... I don't really mean it... is this one of those instances? Or did he somehow manage to slip through the cracks at MEPS?
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MAJ Robert (Bob) Petrarca
You don't "slip through the cracks" with autism. A highly functioning individual with autism has learned how to control their behavior and model their typical peers. Yes a high functioning person with autism may have some a-typical responses - see my original response - but they may not be enough for people to stand up and take notice immediately.
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Per DoD regulations (whether they ought to be amended or scrapped on this point is another matter), an autism or aspergers diagnosis is a bar to enlistment, so he might not have ever been diagnosed, or he hid it well enough at the start (enlisting under false pretenses is yet another, seperate issue). However he got into your formation, though, he _is_ in your formation, and there are a good many "other" autists and aspies throughout the Force who make do, sometimes even doing pretty well and serving as credits to their units, whether they ever were clinically diagnosed or not, pre-enlistment or post-commissioning, or at any other time.
So if you think he's autistic, learn what you can about it, then take what applies to your Soldier and see if it helps you relate to or understand him any better, and keep only what works. The *worst* thing you could do, short of dumping him out with an involuntary discharge, is padding the standards to accommodate his disability, whether he really has one or not. Give him the same chance to acquit himself as a Soldier that everyone else receives.
So if you think he's autistic, learn what you can about it, then take what applies to your Soldier and see if it helps you relate to or understand him any better, and keep only what works. The *worst* thing you could do, short of dumping him out with an involuntary discharge, is padding the standards to accommodate his disability, whether he really has one or not. Give him the same chance to acquit himself as a Soldier that everyone else receives.
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You have a place to seek guidance out of official channels. This person may or may not be. Could be something else. At one duty station where we guarded nukes, we had two soldiers, one would wear aluminum foil hats when ever he worked with Radio equipment. Thought the signals were damaging him. The other soldier would go all "deep space 9" on you, when ever you asked him a complicated question. Cock his head and stare off into space for minutes on end if you let him. You should of been there when the Brigade Commander got a demo of that "skill set."
I am glad to see so many people chiming in for support, I wish I knew then, what I know now about mental health issues, and had the support network to seek advice from.
I am glad to see so many people chiming in for support, I wish I knew then, what I know now about mental health issues, and had the support network to seek advice from.
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