Posted on Aug 14, 2018
How would you feel about a law requiring parents receiving child support to provide documentation of how it’s being spent?
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I think it's a dumb idea. Besides the easily recognized requirement of school clothes, shoes, backpacks, etc...do you really want to itemize toilet paper, laundry soap, rice, gasoline, toothpaste, stain remover, electricty, youth sports registration, fruit, bandaids, shampoo, internet access/wifi (because almost all homework is online, now), and the hundreds (probably thousands) of other things that kids need on a daily basis? Oh yeah, whoever is the primary caregiver will have to stay home full time just to document everything. So, you can add alimony to the list. There's a reason it's estimated that it costs $233,610 to raise a child. That's a little over a $1,000 a month per child.
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Document with receipts to the paying spouse maybe. To the government would never work. Heard parents complain their kids don’t have school clothes but the other parent claims to spend property. Always questioned how it could be proved, but probably to complicated.
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Personally I'd like it, but how could you justify that beyond PII, HIPPA, and any other federally mandated regulation? Also how would you get command teams to want to take additional time they don't have now to go over every single troop who is making those payments? Or the troop who is receiving them?
In the Army, we're kinda big on counseling to correct, maintain, and promote. If you're doing all those, AND get saddled with counseling on what is being spent vs what it's spent on, you may as well pull up a cot, have some "ready-made" counseling's with the Magic Bullet at the bottom and your coffee fresh and ready at all times.
If it's just a law that applies to the Nation, I'd like to see it, but now you've burdened the judicial system to the point where noting will get done quickly being the Judges would become the one doing the counseling on paper. Celebrities would LOVE this being who wants to be like Blake Griffin and pay $256k a month for two kids? Does it really cost that much to take care of any child (special needs are different).
In the Army, we're kinda big on counseling to correct, maintain, and promote. If you're doing all those, AND get saddled with counseling on what is being spent vs what it's spent on, you may as well pull up a cot, have some "ready-made" counseling's with the Magic Bullet at the bottom and your coffee fresh and ready at all times.
If it's just a law that applies to the Nation, I'd like to see it, but now you've burdened the judicial system to the point where noting will get done quickly being the Judges would become the one doing the counseling on paper. Celebrities would LOVE this being who wants to be like Blake Griffin and pay $256k a month for two kids? Does it really cost that much to take care of any child (special needs are different).
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SFC Kelly Fuerhoff
The intent of child support is to offset the burden of child related costs to the parent with the lesser income or who has the children the greater amount of time can maintain the child's need and standard of living between homes remains consistent as possible.
That's why rich people pay what they do - their kids have a different standard of living then my kid or someone else who isn't wealthy. It's supposed to keep up what would have been being paid while the parents were together and keep the child consistent between homes.
Now my ex is mandated $86 a month for our daughter alone - the only time I get money is when the state takes it and he hasn't had a steady job in over 2 years. He only has to pay $330 a month for four kids. That's nothing compared to other payments I've seen from a non custodial parent for one kid.
First I was going to waive it. Then we did the mandatory minimum of $50 a month. Then my lawyer said screw that and figured out how much a 40 hour minimum wage job would be - apparently $86 a month. He didn't contribute anything when we were married and still doesn't so her standard of living hasn't changed.
That's why rich people pay what they do - their kids have a different standard of living then my kid or someone else who isn't wealthy. It's supposed to keep up what would have been being paid while the parents were together and keep the child consistent between homes.
Now my ex is mandated $86 a month for our daughter alone - the only time I get money is when the state takes it and he hasn't had a steady job in over 2 years. He only has to pay $330 a month for four kids. That's nothing compared to other payments I've seen from a non custodial parent for one kid.
First I was going to waive it. Then we did the mandatory minimum of $50 a month. Then my lawyer said screw that and figured out how much a 40 hour minimum wage job would be - apparently $86 a month. He didn't contribute anything when we were married and still doesn't so her standard of living hasn't changed.
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SSG Warren Swan
SFC Kelly Fuerhoff - There's no excuse for him not to pay, but that's my personal opinion. The amount he's supposed to pay is low compared to some of the guys I was with. Some of them were geo-bachelors paying for their kids. There is a difference in someone paying child support to take care of the child, vs someone using child support to keep their personal standards and standard of living up. At $256k a month for really young children in Blakes case, you're paying her. She even has a previous child by an athlete and he's(the other child's father) paying pretty good for that child. In Brittany Spears case, she's paying for her kids, plus her ex's kids he had previously. Both celebrities are seen as cash cows to where they're taking advantage of the system, rather than work, and allow the money to go where it's supposed to. I don't know any five yr old's who need anything close to $250k a month unless they're special needs kids. But vacations, a house(s), cars, nannies, plastic surgery? That's not child support, that's the gaining parent using that money on themselves.
The second you hear someone say they need $50k a month to take care of the child, that should ring alarm bells in any court as to what are you basing your numbers off past the fact of having a child by a celebrity or athlete? How much are YOU using compared to the actual amount the child needs? In cases like this, I see no reason why the courts shouldn't have a law that outlines exactly what is needed, and the courts go line by line to ensure that you're not using their money as your personal cash cow.
It's extremely burdensome on the courts to even have something like this, and to have to keep up with the constant changes it would entail would just tax the hell out of an overtaxed judicial system.
The second you hear someone say they need $50k a month to take care of the child, that should ring alarm bells in any court as to what are you basing your numbers off past the fact of having a child by a celebrity or athlete? How much are YOU using compared to the actual amount the child needs? In cases like this, I see no reason why the courts shouldn't have a law that outlines exactly what is needed, and the courts go line by line to ensure that you're not using their money as your personal cash cow.
It's extremely burdensome on the courts to even have something like this, and to have to keep up with the constant changes it would entail would just tax the hell out of an overtaxed judicial system.
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SFC Kelly Fuerhoff
SSG Warren Swan - Well he's been in jail since October 30...so he can't pay right now and hopefully he gets convicted of this other burglary and can just spend as much time as possible in prison because that's where he belongs. He's been getting plea deals and charges lowered the last two times he's been arrested. This last burglary (he and a friend were on meth and broke into burned down apartments to steal stuff to get more). Then almost 3 years ago someone robbed the gas station in his hometown. That was when I filed for divorce. He had been with his dad, then took off and was "partying" with his friends in his hometown. He was there that weekend it was over Labor Day that year. Well then he went to rehab and seemed to be on the right path so I let him back in my life like a moron. He was sober more or less five months and working - well then Feb 2016 they arrested him. Like an idiot I bailed him out even though I knew it was too much. He relapsed that night...and came back with me and went back to his loser ways. Then two months later he took off with my car, I called the cops he got arrested. Did a month and got offered to time served if he plead guilty. He did. Went to his moms. Then got his probation filed to be revoked but they gave him another chance. The case went on a year for the robbery - then last year in March they offered him a plea deal of theft. So he got arrested because they found a hoodie near the crime scene with his DNA and he said it was his...I kept believing he didn't have a part in it because the clerk said the guy was 5'7'' and skinny - he's 6'1'' 220 lbs (then). But it's clear he had something to do with it. He did 3 months for it -and I got screwed out of the bail money because I didn't know that it goes back to the defendant no matter what. And he used our daughter's medical condition to get half of it before jail and that really put the end in any chance of a relationship ever again. To use your child's medical condition for drug money - that's what he did he had 3 days to report. Then he promised to give me the rest after heg ot out - nope. Took off, spent about $1000 on meth and OD'd and in the hospital two days. Rehab for the fourth time in August last year, got out, relapsed with some meth head 27 year old chicks and then jail.
Child support is based off income...look at the calculators for each state. I make more than him that's why his was so low and we had to make up for a 40 hour work week since he had no job then.
Child support is based off income...look at the calculators for each state. I make more than him that's why his was so low and we had to make up for a 40 hour work week since he had no job then.
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