Posted on Oct 16, 2016
How would you react to an E2 who "smart mouths" you in formation?
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Here's the background. You're a senior E5. Your troops are in formation and you're handing out work for the day. You hand out an assignment to a fresh E2 with less than a year in and only a few months at your command. They blatantly complain and tell you to choose someone else. You calmly tell them they will do this task and they tell you to shove it and give it to someone else. How do you react?
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Release everyone else to the plan of the day,,,,Keep this mouthy individual and make their day,week,month suck (as long as it takes for them to see the light) Document it with a counseling, just incase this individual continues down the road of poor choices:)
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is this in the Corps or the Navy? Either way, seems to be an issue through out all services. Soldiers or marines are not being broke down and build back up as they use to. So approach is totally different from 10+ years ago. Discussion can begin with "At ease", then "Stand by after formation", conduct one on one counseling verbally. (Your career can depend on it, depending on how your chain of command is)
At the same time, by experience most soldiers will do as they see (like kids with their parents) If they see NCOs or Officers do the same as example, why they cant do the same?. This is where you step in as an NCO and explain about Discipline and provide leadership instead of just barking. What kind of climate/environment is this?
At the same time, by experience most soldiers will do as they see (like kids with their parents) If they see NCOs or Officers do the same as example, why they cant do the same?. This is where you step in as an NCO and explain about Discipline and provide leadership instead of just barking. What kind of climate/environment is this?
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I would take immediate corrective action in front of that same formation. You cannot allow toxic behavior to usurp your authority in front of your command structure. The effect can be devastating on unit discipline. Military bearing and professionalism are the foundation on which duty and mission performance are built.
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Right to the orderly room, ask why they refused your order. Have a witness. Them smoke them all day.
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Assign the task to someone else, counsel the soldier after formation and then report the incident immediately to the platoon sergeant or if you are the platoon sergeant, to the first sergeant.
The NCO chain will then do its job either by identifying the soldier's problem (who knows what he is going through), and either informally or formally punishing as appropriate.
As a company commander I had a soldier who started mouthing off to his squad leader and platoon sergeant. The first sergeant and I talked about it a few times, and after learning that the soldier's brother had just committed suicide, we got that soldier help instead of an article 15.
The NCO chain will then do its job either by identifying the soldier's problem (who knows what he is going through), and either informally or formally punishing as appropriate.
As a company commander I had a soldier who started mouthing off to his squad leader and platoon sergeant. The first sergeant and I talked about it a few times, and after learning that the soldier's brother had just committed suicide, we got that soldier help instead of an article 15.
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Take them around the corner of the building after formation and perform corrective training. Don't put it on paper unless you need to and don't call them out in public.
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When I was in basic at Ft. Lewis in '73, I made a smartass remark that was overheard by my Drill Sargeant while we were in the field. 50 push-ups with a PRC-77 and an M60 on my back was the first phase. Then I humped those two pieces of equipment, along with my M16 and basic gear for the next 72 hours. Upon returning from the field, I had latrine duty for two weeks. It was amazing how my attitude changed, I was told.
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