Posted on Oct 16, 2016
How would you react to an E2 who "smart mouths" you in formation?
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Here's the background. You're a senior E5. Your troops are in formation and you're handing out work for the day. You hand out an assignment to a fresh E2 with less than a year in and only a few months at your command. They blatantly complain and tell you to choose someone else. You calmly tell them they will do this task and they tell you to shove it and give it to someone else. How do you react?
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Time to stop babying these millennials and knock them on the fricking asses. If i had disrespected my superior back in my time, my ass would be wondering "how come i'm on the floor".
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It happened once to me as a PO3, some AR appeared dubious about an instruction. I just said stand fast after dismisiing the work detail. Left him standing there untill all work had finished (good three hours, more or less). Then asked him if he would like to do what was asked of him or if he wanted to stay there overnight and see the skipper on the morning. He did his job, never again, he was cured...
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Give him that job and everyone else's for the rest of the week and calm explain it can always go out back
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Someone failed to "educate" this young cruit. Back in the day, no one questioned, or refused an order. FIrst off, at the first words of refusal in front of others, they would get dressed down in front of those that are present, to insure that all knows who is on charge, and all know the consequences of insubordination in the open, if the insubordination occurs in private, then perhaps a private talk is in order, but still, the e2 still needs to know in uncertain terms that this is not acceptable.
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Calmly ask him if there's a problem. If he still continues, smoke him until he's swimming
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I don't care what that person is going through - they have no right to tell an E5 (or even an E4) to shove it.
If the person is having issues with other people in the unit and are getting harassed - or a personal issue has caused them some problems - they need to pull the E5 off to the side and request a private meeting to work something out.
To me, that E2 was ready for a good old fashion ass kicking.
If the person is having issues with other people in the unit and are getting harassed - or a personal issue has caused them some problems - they need to pull the E5 off to the side and request a private meeting to work something out.
To me, that E2 was ready for a good old fashion ass kicking.
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I took my problem child a storeroom and WORKED it out! Never had a issue again.
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Push ups, extra duty, restriction, order all hands to assist the individual in performance of the task. No physical touching as you go to jail for that now.
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This would depend on what kind of soldier the E2 has been. If this is an isolated incident and kid is going through a rough time I simply do a 4856 because he defied me in front of junior soldiers clearly stating that if this type behavior becomes a pattern will have to follow with UCMJ.
If the E-2 is a proven dirt bag run this incident up the chain of command recommending UCMJ
If the E-2 is a proven dirt bag run this incident up the chain of command recommending UCMJ
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