Posted on Oct 16, 2016
How would you react to an E2 who "smart mouths" you in formation?
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Here's the background. You're a senior E5. Your troops are in formation and you're handing out work for the day. You hand out an assignment to a fresh E2 with less than a year in and only a few months at your command. They blatantly complain and tell you to choose someone else. You calmly tell them they will do this task and they tell you to shove it and give it to someone else. How do you react?
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Order him to start swabbing the deck and clean the heads till they shine. Dismiss everyone else to their duties. After cleaning is done satisfactorily, have a private chat with him and explain where he went wrong.
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When i was in mid 70s what we called lock him up now they say smoke him and then it would be a blanket party that night.next time he'd think before he spoke
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Let me first say that you should never ask why or hesitate when given a lawful order! Your not in school your in the fighting force that has been directed to protect the freedoms of this fine nation. What ever happened to a good ole smoke session. Pushing a five gallon water can with your forehead while low crawling the parade field. If you are questioning my instructions now in garrison, what will you do when bullets start flying. Discipline by fire, blood and sweat!! We (and I say WE because I will always be a part of the Army) have become nothing more than babysitters that can't even discipline the kids. Give NCO's their responsibility and ability to train, discipline and LEAD their soldiers (marines, air men, sea men)!!
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Only had one to do this.. He was a basic trainee and I the DI... got his butt chewed the rest of the flight took care of him later.
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Give one more chance to accept the work . and warn him he will be brought up on charges of disobeying an order .
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The key to success in battle is effective communications therefore it must be communicated that there is a chain of command and he is currently at the bottom of the chain. Sounds like he didn't learn much in boot camp, has no respect for rank and is not a team player. An effective NCO must lead by example utilizing his/her knowledge, skills and experience and be willing to complete each task he tells others to do. An individual not willing to be part of a team becomes a liability instead of an asset and doesn't belong in an organization that prides itself on duty, honor and courage.
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Being a marine corps veteran there are a few different options that you could chose from. Now many people would say beat the living crap out of the little punk but here is the way I used to deal with the young bucks. Anyone could dole out tree line justice but I do what the marine corps does best, assault your enemy mentally. You break a spirit or a mindset with words instead of violence and then you completely own a person.
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I believe that this soldier is in desperate need of a visit to the 1sg and company commander for some motivation. I know I am an old fogie, but, when I was still in, first you did what you were ordered to then you explain why you didn't think that you should do it. Follow the order first!
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You get in their face, give them a toungue lashing, not worrying about any spittle that may fly out of your mouth, and then tell him to get down and give you twenty. Then continue until you decide the idiot has learned his lesson. Can't see this happening in the Marine Corps. Marines know what orders are.
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Command soldier to obey a fair, legitment order, soldier refuses, tell him, still refuses, order him one last time verbally, refusal, start paperwork for article 15 with disiplinary action. Retsriction to post or barracks. Wait for sfc then first seargent response. Act accordingly. Done.
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I would ream his sorry ass out in front of God and the entire formation, getting my point across without question!!
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