Posted on Oct 16, 2016
How would you react to an E2 who "smart mouths" you in formation?
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Here's the background. You're a senior E5. Your troops are in formation and you're handing out work for the day. You hand out an assignment to a fresh E2 with less than a year in and only a few months at your command. They blatantly complain and tell you to choose someone else. You calmly tell them they will do this task and they tell you to shove it and give it to someone else. How do you react?
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What Would You Do
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I. Know tins will sound odd. Ok you want someone else to do your duty. .....you choose. Then both will perform theduty
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Praise in public, punish in private, but since dickface wants to be blatantly disrespectful and have a dick measuring contest in public.....front back go his ass until he threw up!!
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Remind the young person that it was not a request but a directive and that his opinion of the directive was not requested and does not matter regarding his likes or dislikes concerning the task given and the he'd be well reminded to do as he is told rather than facing the alternative for disobedience and failure to follow directions given by a senior ranking person.
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Yes... dismiss the others to carry on with the task and then professionally rip some holy ass. These young kids need to understand that those in leadership roles have the authority per the UCMJ to give lawful orders and that they must be carried out. Any attitude or disobedience must be dealt with swiftly.
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In my case we would remind the Airman . .one word . .RESPECT!! Then if necessary DEFINE the meaning of that word and tell he/or she that RESPECT is not only important in the military but vital in civilian life too!!
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In 1978, I had this happen when I was a "salty" 3rd Class Boatswain's Mate. I choked him out. The E2 pressed charges, I went to "mast" and my OIC, who was a very salty CWO4 Bos'n and Deep Sea Diving Officer, gave me a warning and said this would have been OK during Viet Nam but that we were in a new Navy and it wasn't tolerated anymore.
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Oh I would whisper in his ear and say you will expleted comments do it. And no one will know what I've said except him.
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i was in the 82nd in the sixties u pull that shit you are going to pay dearly for your actions
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I would skip over him, and give everyone else their job. Then after everyone fell out I would hold him back and explain in multiple ways why and how they would get the job done and for how long they would be doing it. If it continued to persist I would consult my E6 and proceed from there.
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I once had a specialist smart mouth me in formation. I took her aside after formation, it was close of day formation, and had her stand at parade rest, in the strictest sense (modified attention) and gave her a chewing of get life for about 30 mins with a write up. never had a problem again.
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SFC James Green
Well over the years you learn and grow. The bottom line is little shit worth educating and if they are will in sink and stick. Tailor your response but you have to immediately respond or the dipsticks buds will lose their respect for command. My immediate response drop everybody but him for 50, then dismiss all but smart ass and explain to the error of thinking he could get away with such crap. Then explain that Top is always looking for volunteers and they are now at the top of "can do" list. During my time 70's & 80's I used everything from bunk adapters to scare tactics you escalated as necessary but you know what I only kicked out one troop for this kind of attitude.
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i will smoke the shit out of them and later on i will verbally counsel them.
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