Posted on Oct 16, 2016
How would you react to an E2 who "smart mouths" you in formation?
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Here's the background. You're a senior E5. Your troops are in formation and you're handing out work for the day. You hand out an assignment to a fresh E2 with less than a year in and only a few months at your command. They blatantly complain and tell you to choose someone else. You calmly tell them they will do this task and they tell you to shove it and give it to someone else. How do you react?
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I had to chapter out a good SGT because he kept being late. I didn't know him personally. I was just handed 7 soldiers and told, They're your responsibility, get em out of here. Later I found out the real story. E5, 6 years in, arms room NCO. Suddenly he was late every time the arms room needed to be opened for any reason. 1SG loathed anyone who was late; it was his personal pet peeve. Before you could say Armorer, this E5 went from NCO to SPC to PFC. AND NO ONE EVER ASKED HIM WHY....until this young LT finally took him aside and had a talk with him. Turns out his wife left him And their child, only 3 years old. This soldier had no idea how to handle single parenthood. He had no resources or family and didn't know what to do with a 3 yr old when he had to open an arms room at 0200-0300 hours before day care opens. This LT gave him some phone numbers and resources and BAM! Problem solved. He was never late again. But it was too late. 1SG was determined to destroy his career. 6 years steller service...and resentment and stress and life and a really bad 1SG, only made it worse. All he needed was someone to talk to him once and offer him a hand. We're still friends even though I had to do my duty. He's a wonderful person, a good parent and on his way to finishing his bachelors. So when I hear some say we should expect soldiers to just obey and ignore their personhood...I say, No. That isnt your only job. Yes I need to accomplish my mission but a Good leader know the Welfare of their soldier is in that creed as well. And if you aren't checking the welfare of your soldiers, its just laziness on your part. I know my soldiers and will always place their needs above my own doesn't just mean letting them eat in the chow line first and asking them where they're from. No one gives a damn where you're from. Tell me where you're going and how we can get there, together
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Step back regarding group get your temper under control, then give the private a order to do the job if he smarts off AR 15, restriction, extra duty his butt
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You drop the whole Platoon and hold them in the Front Leaning Rest until you get tired. Then you smoke the crap out of them, until that menial detail you gave them seems like a superior task!!!! Ain't that right Maggot!!!! And you repeat the cycle until you receive their full cooperation!!!! I would not let that private "Eye (Blank) me either" I would let him know I'd rip his filthy eyes out of his sockets!!!! Old School Military!!!
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Punishment right then and there, Drop and push until you agree to do it and if you don't, art 15 and recycle. If you don't stop it then and there, no one there will respect you and no one will follow your orders.
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honestly after hearing from both older brothers and my father how basic was i know how id have handled it and to the point id tell him drop give me 50 and if he refused id say well then wanna go that route today huh all wile walking around him then swift foot to rear knee and crouch down and explain that it wasnt a request and next time it wouldnt be a foot
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Platoon, Atten shun......Half Right Face, Front Leaning Rest Position.......Ho, now lets see how many pushups we can do while Pv2 Dumbass considers his options
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I've been in a similar situation, not to that extreme, but the results were unsavory. I ended up going AWOL for 3 days and spent 30 days in CCF. After my release from there, I found that the Sgt., my reason for AWOL had been released from our platoon. I never had a problem afterwards.
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