How would you react to an E2 who "smart mouths" you in formation?

In today's politically correct world, your actions can ruin your career, even if they were the right one. My response would be to lock his heals and tell him to be quiet immediately. Setting the tone for discipline in a unit must be adhered to with all troops present. Then I would dismiss the rest of the unit and deal with the troop with his Team Leader. Leadership is more thank Barking orders, inspiring troops to follow, along with a little fear works well. For those that don't have that fear or discipline, there are great administrative tools to get their attention and or remove them from the service. Having been a private once, and rolled my eyes at my squad leader for something. I remember picking myself up off the ground and determined that maintaining my discipline was a far healthier thing to.do. I cannot say I have not "adjusted" a few attitudes in my day. But the political climate was different in the 80's and 90's. The best leadership advise if received in my career, and I used it for 24 years, " Always be professional, and never make it personal " once you lose your honor, it's almost impossible to get it back.

I enlisted before Volar came into the picture. I believe in the 'old school' methods! Need I say more?

Throat punch and then physical enhancement

Fire him

If he is going to smart mouth an NCO or Officer in front of the formation, the person on the receiving end has to respond right there to have any credibility with the others. My response as a commissioned officer would be to tell the 1SG to handle it and tell him/her in front of the soldier to let me know if you want him in front of my desk. And if he does come to me, tell him to put his rank in one hand and his money in the other and I will take what I want. But he is guaranteed not to leave my office with all he came in with.

Knife hands

Come box counseling

Thank all y'all for serving

The sgt should make an point to my te detail more the a little task and tell them they will do or all day PT

Chain of command you tell your LCPL's to "take care of it"

He needs to be me an example of so that leadership is not questioned again. I would tell him to standby then direct him to my office and request the presence of my Chief, who I will fill in with the details before both of us meeting the insubordinate and we shall proceed to light him up, followed by "corrective" training.

Did I just hear you right you do not want to do the task at hand. Do realize you just disobeyed a lawful order. Now I highly suggest you get busy and do what your ordered to do. When you are done report to me.

Pull the young man and his squad or team leader aside and explain his options along with a counseling statement and a little extra duty. This is NCO business and should be conducted that way. If further discipline is needed, you may need to take it up your chain of command depending on the circumstances or offence. Re member NCO Business First.

Give him a private learning moment

SMOKE HIM AND THE PLATOON, THEY ARE ALL ONE , if one of you screws up your all pay for it, this builds unity over time ,this individual must learn that his fellow E2s will NOT put up with his attitude either ,shape up ,shut up and complete your task that is given , or be P.T.ed so hard you puke ,piss, and pass out , I've been a military brat from day 1 next in line to sign up and serve, my father used to smoke my brother and I ,it didn't matter who messed up we both got pt and both clean, there are 3 things I've learned from this it's to have honor, integrity, and unity those 3 key skills will take you and your team a long way once obtained and utilized by all in your platoon including you and your platoon commander

If they want to disrespect and embarrass me, well it's only fair to punish them. They'd be in the front leaning rest real quick. If they continued to act as such, they would also be facing an article 15 for disrespecting a noncommissioned officer, and be put on extra duty.

I would place PV2 Whoever at parade rest, remind him or her of their General Order number (2). Discipline is a must and then make him/her give a class on following military lawful orders. Last but not least if he/she doesn't comply, then I would have no choice but to PT the dog shit outta them, give them a Article 15 and or recommend a court martial and confinement.

You signed up in an organization that deals in the chain of command. Do as your told.

destroy his soul, point blank, period, .com for all those googles out there. I would disassemble his ass like an M4, put him back together, conduct a functions check on him to make sure he was firing within the proper parameters and if not, I would tag his ass Non-Mission Capable and send his ass to the Depot yard. All Soldiers Love Discipline, that's why they joined the military. Always remember its the politicians who don't like discipline, not the troops. Charging hard produces Hard chargers!!! Lead the fight and fight to lead, that the moto I stand by. I am no old school Soldier, but I was raised by an old school soldier who would have stuck his spit shined boot right up my 4th point of contact if I disrespected him and I have always looked at my seniors in the same light.

Send the rest of your troops out of the barracks quickly-tell them you have to handle the situation with a soon-to-be former soldier. Have him put his gear down and stand next to a wall-at attention. Quietly, but firmly explain that disobeying an order in a combat situation is a criminal offense and could resolved with a bullet in the back of the head. In peacetime it could mean charges that lead to a dishonorable discharge which will ruin every day of that young man's life. If he has a problem with something, tell him you'll talk with him at the end of the day-after he finishes his assigned duty. If he doesn't like the military he can see the CO for a General Discharge-McDonalds always needs a fry cook. Tell him, in no uncertain terms, that you're the boss, and disobeying or refusing an order from a superior will land him in more trouble than he can imagine In '68, I had an E3 refuse his KP duty and was going bed. Five minutes later two MPs escorted him out of the barracks-that sent a message to everyone.

Me being a E-1. I know that I would not smart mouth a higher ranking soldier simply for the fact that it is rude and doesn't follow the army values, which I feel really are a key point to being a successful army. If I was that E-5 I would put that soldier in his place and remind him of the rules of respect the Drill Sargents tought us in basic.

Letter of Reprimand for sure, he or she needs to get the message that even simple sounding work assignments are still orders. I hear tales from friends still on active duty that SO MUCH has changed regarding discipline. Troops are getting soft and disrespectful and this sort of behavior is almost encouraged! Sorry, these types of attitudes and disrespect just don't work in the military. Get out and join the Cub Scouts, NOT the Boy Scouts. You are a danger to others and you should go back to live with mommy.

This isn't a pie eating contest...this is the military. When you are given a proper order (i.e. an order that is not illegal or inappropriate) you follow it! I'd give him the same choice my dad gave me growing up. You will follow the order ricky tik or there will be consequences and I don't care which you choose!

March him to a place visible to the formation but too far for talking. Leave him there and get on about your business

Unless its an Emergency Never ask anyone to do anything you will not do yourself , Go help do the work for a little bit to show them , After one month all my Troops give me 110%, or More, I used DEMOCRATIC Leadership a Lot it makes people feel like part of the TEAM, However if Necessary I could use AUTHORITARIAN and No One wanted to see me in that State of Mind

Different ways to Handle a Situation, the Shit head Correction Officers caused most of the Problems at Twin Rivers Correction Center Monroe WA where I worked for One Year , We got the 6 Bad ones Put out on Coyote Duty around the Outside of the Prison and Things got better for Everyone
Some Situations call for the Best Man to be put in Charge, I was only Promoted 8 years ahead of the People in my Primary of 6 MOS'S Sent in to Fix many Messes, More than Once I had people that out ranked me In the Military Ordered to Work for me Some of them were seen Crying, after the Crisis was Corrected then I moved on

Hard quick direct correction. Gunny hit it on the head. If he remains defiant, thank you for your service have a nice day!

SFC Retired Walt Troy: Have PFC Dummy research Article 92, UCMJ and pick out his punishment.

Cut it out before it becomes a virus

I have dealt with this before. It typically ended with the Soldier and squad dealing with his unfinished detail as well as counseling. Due to the blatant disrespect, I would have recommended a Summarized Article 15. If 1SG wanted to give him/her a second chance, I would work it out so that the Soldier found out when we both met with the 1SG and then as 1SG and I "discussed" the situation have it known that the next instance of this behavior would result in a Company Grade. (Of course this COA would be discussed with 1SG ahead of time.)

On a side note, as a Sergeant (E5) I once had a Soldier tell me he didn't have to do what I told him because his oath of enlistment only required him to obey the officers appointed over him. I informed him that I was a Non-Commissioned OFFICER and I WAS one of those officers appointed over him. I guess he thought he only had to obey commissioned officers. lol

I'd break into pieces

I would have him fall out and be escorted back to the command for disciplinary action to follow. The carry on smartly.

...could you hold up your " I need a safe space" card?

Imagine this. Your a salty lance in the same situation but it's a boot POG Cpl that picked up after the same time with no deployments and he smarts off during mcmap PT while he's being a fat lazy turd and you call him out. And you get kicked out of the marine corps for it. FUSMC. Bunch of sensitive pussies

When I was a Sgt...in Okinawa... I may or may not have had a smart ass remark thrown my way during a formation. I may or may not have reached across someone and smack someone in the face with my clipboard and offer to meet and discuss in the conference alley between the warehouse after formation. He declined, supposedly, and his peers piled on telling him he was way out of line, I'm guessing... Had another incident where a new L/Cpl, upon meeting one of our MSgts commented...'you're kind of fat for a MSgt aren't you?'.... The MSgt said he was working on it but right now he needed a LCpl for the wash rack where a half dozen PFC's and L/Cpls were washing down aircraft... Every 10 min or so, the MSgt would take away one of the crew...in a few minutes only the loud mouth was washing the bird...After a couple days, it finally dawned on said L/Cpl, whereby he apologized for his rudeness. Two different examples ...either case, civility was restored.

Years ago at a Joint Training Facility I was advised that a certain E4 acted negatively to what was directed as Joint Command Directives; his response to an E7 was he is a Marine and they do their tastings differently! My response was this - you have two options Marine as I cornered him to the side as not to make an incident even more obvious; you can follow me to the Commanders office where we would summon the Dean of Admissions and they will type your rescinding orders sendind you back to your duty station with a no-go and fail or, you will take orders as given! (And I emphasized that the outgoing process is to notify his command of his failure to follow orders which is an Article 15). His response was a resounding-"No, Sergeant 1st Class I'll do as instructed!"

Give them the assignment. Then give them the choice, Do the job or report to the first sergeant, on report.

You must follow all lawful orders period. Have them and they're stand by after formation and lay out the expectations. If they are going to have a hard time follow orders then it's time for an ART-15, counselling or both bottom line is the military is a combat organisation and when the shit hits the fan there's no time for individuals.

I agree with GySgt Pepper. Nip it in the bud and quickly. Over the years I've learned to hold my tongue in front of others but take them aside and let them know EXACTLY what they were doing wrong and were going to do, no ifs ands , or buts. I made the mistake of talking back to a superior once back in the 80's. He pulled a contract and showed me where I was only guaranteed 1 hour sleep a day and held me to that for nearly 4 months. I had a new understanding at that point. In the end, he admitted he was wrong but for me to talk back in front of others was also wrong. We shook hands and he even commended me on taking it.

I'm a bit old school before stress cards and women in the infantry (not saying the latter is bad just different then what i was use to). In the words of Major Payne "I'm gonna make you strong". I would smoke that cherry until he couldn't walk, Him and his team leader. Push them to succeed or quit. With that attitude please quit.

remind the subordinate where his place is in the chain of command and give his ass some extra duty,