Posted on Oct 16, 2016
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Here's the background. You're a senior E5. Your troops are in formation and you're handing out work for the day. You hand out an assignment to a fresh E2 with less than a year in and only a few months at your command. They blatantly complain and tell you to choose someone else. You calmly tell them they will do this task and they tell you to shove it and give it to someone else. How do you react?
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SSgt Data Systems Chief
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Pull the punk out of formation, have a little one-way conversation about the organization he signed the dotted line in order to join and is stuck in for four years, have said conversation documented (because now we have hurt feelings and paperwork instead of real men and women in today's military), and if there's a future infraction, push for public NJP and make an example of them in front of the entire company. I'm entirely against paperwork and ruining careers for potentially fixable Marines, but that's how we must conduct business per today's standards.
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SSG Jerel Parker
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For the private to react in that manner, he/she did not get fully oriented in Basic or advanced training. So now you are stuck with getting his attention, and explaining his role in the rank structure. Then of course if he has a problem with that then you ramp up your response to get his attention, as to what will happen if he further refuses your orders from this point forward. Then if that doesn't work then threaten his career with punitive actions. Wall to wall therapy from the old days get you in trouble, but self defense is always necessary if he is stupid enough to swing on you. Old ways are not always dead, just smoothed over with red tape.
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PO1 Tom Follis
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See me after quarters
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PO1 Kevin Dougherty
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In the old days some "fan room counseling" would have been the order of the day ... in today's kinder, gentler military?
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SPC Steven Nihipali
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As an E2 who mouthed off in basic, I can tell you that no matter what you do, it's not going to change that shit bricks mind. This entitlement process has fucked our military. You're not going to be the only one who has this happen. As an E4, deployed to Iraq, it was my job to keep my gun trucks running. I had a fresh off the line truck scheduled to leave the wire. I couldn't and wouldn't let anyone else from it or even operate it in the motorpool until I test drove it. I was written up by A CPL because if insubordination. I couldn't care anyways. If they died it rolled over, it was my ass, not theirs. Team/Squad leaders gotta know what's going on long before this shit happens.

To answer my feelings on it, fuck his life up. Fuck him up so bad he's wished he was swallowed. Communication goes both ways and orders are only orders when they're clear.
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SSgt Randy Waters
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Hold PFC Smart Ass after formation with his Squad/Team leader. Bring down the path of God upon him and explain what will happen to him the next time this happen......doll out a few reminders, EPD etc., release him then explain to the Squad/Team Ready my expectations and ask him if he likes his job......if it happens again, drop kick too PFC all the way to the brig, seek admin discharge then counsel the Team/Squad leader and give him some guidance on how to handle troublesome Marines. Of course I'm Old and cranky so i might be a little out of line.
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SGT Milton Pridemore
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You gotta Ask?? Maybe you shouldnt be E-5? Bust this asshat to E-1 and give him an Article and talk to the commander through Chain of Command of course about dumping him back on the street. Looks in every way he don't wanna be there...make it happen!
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SSG Dennis Wood
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Tell him, "you obviously lost your mind." Pull him aside, counsel him. Inform him that a pattern of misconduct would result in recommndation for UCMJ. Then put him on every shit detail for a month.
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TSgt Mario Guajardo
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Speak to him in private. Make it clear in no uncertain terms that you will NOT tolerate this insubordination. Make sure he knows the consequences then follow through as appropriate.
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SSgt Steven Reese
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Edited 8 y ago
There is a 1980's reaction and a 2000s' reaction. When I was a PFC in the early 80's. I told a young Sgt. I couldn't stand his ass, due to him badgering me constantly......When I got off the ground and dusted myself off from being bodyslammed I realized that I may have gotten too comfortable with him. Most leaders by their Bearing and demeanor will rarely run into this scenario, so I would say take the young man to the side and explainined to him how things are. Don't ruin your career over someone else.
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PO3 B Al Eisen
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I would write them up for attitude adjustment training.
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PO2 Walt Setzer
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In 1972 I was the E-5 night shift supervisor in my squadron's power plants shop. I supervised two other E-5s, but I was supervisor and inspector.

After the others had completed some work on the engines on an SH-3 helicopter, I inspected it and went into sign it off so it could be flight tested. I told one of the other two to install the firewall between the engines, and he told me to do it myself. I informed him that he had 3 choices, replace the firewall, get written up, or have me kick his ass. He chose to replace the firewall. I looked over at our E-9 Maintenance Chief, and he just smiled.
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SGT Jody Beach
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"Front lean rest position ,,,,,,MOVE ,,,,,, " No time for the bullshit. If your in combat you do not have time for this shit. When everyone is doing the assigned jobs you come back to him and find out whats up. Then make the choice if this person needs to even be in the service anymore.
If one of my employees told me no I would send them home for good.
Eight years I served. I cleaned toilets, dishes, hallways. Worked hours on hours. Earned rank and became a leader. I knew what I signed up for and so does he.
Roll his ass out the door.........
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CPL Ignazzio Flores
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Inform his team leader about the next step, that would be article 15th 45/45. N reduction in rank and grade. The most important thing for any military member is OUR PERSONAL TIME...
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Cpl Jim Adkins
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To complain is normal, to tell a E5 to shove it is a bery big mistake. I would quickly call him to attention and help him extract his head out of his ass. them i would order him to the pushup position where i would make him recite the E2 warrent word for word all while in the pushup position. then i would give him a page 11 entry into his SRB for insubordination, then he would get barracks restriction for a couple of weeks, then i would pull him off to the side and ask him if he understands just how miserable i can make his life. if he responds properly i may consider removing him from my shit list
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SSG Steve Mossman
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An E Duce , as I remember is a Private, not Private Firse Class, as You Were, the Private would have Duty for about a month after an ass reaming He would never forget, if I got flack the Private would become a Private Fucking Civilian...
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SSgt James Connolly
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I would pray that this incident would not come up in any of my people. They would all ready know that he just screwed the rest of the Plt. Only takes one and every one pays the price. Yes I would correct him and the rest of the people losing their liberty we would never have shitbird do it again.
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Cpl Justin Velez
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At the end of formation, I would pull the "smart mouth" E-2 and a senior solider and have a word with the E-2 that is not the way you conduct yourself as a military personnel. Than you have the senior soldier and the "smart mouth" E-2 donthe task that you assigned him to do together.
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MSG Intelligence Analyst
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We called wall to wall counselling and not only had to deal with power enlisted had to deal with a few fresh 2nd it
Ok the army changed not for the good this shit need to be stoped asap.
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SSG Edward Tilton
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March him out of voice reach and leave him there. Don't yell at him or berate him. Then find your superior and ask him where he would like you to put him
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