How would you react to an E2 who "smart mouths" you in formation?

Well private, (no longer PFC), I am sorry you feel that way. Maybe you can take the next 30 days of restriction to reflect upon it.

I would have the 2 pvts stay after formation and then finish handing out assignments. Then I would instruct them on military code of conduct on insubordination .Then send them on their way to their assignments .I would talk with Squad Leader.If behavior continued pen and paper,thePlatoon Sergeant would become more involved, next time the Platoon Leader ,from here article 15.Youll become a professional toilet room cleaner then You'll get to learn about the beautiful Mess Hall. Where they will teach U the sacred art of peeling potatoes.Where U will become a professional potato peeler.

I never actually had to deal with that kind of insubordination, thankfully, but I agree it does need to not be allowed to slide. Closest I came to that was getting corpsmen & Marines to do housekeeping chores without a major battle. In that instance reverse psychology worked well, but it wouldn't in this situation. This requires clear assertion of expectations, as others are saying, with a specific consequence for failure to comply, and willingness to carry through on that consequence. To let 1 slide is to invite repeats from him, and from others as well.

That e2 should be doing 2 or 300 yes hundred pushups, for each offense . IF YOU JOIN THE MILITARY it is your choice so SUCK IT UP BUTTERCUP

These days it’s hard to react for the fact that we have been taken our rights away from disciplinary action . Before if you disrespected your commander you were dealt with, not good

In a unit with the right culture, the soldiers feel pressure from their peers to perform at a certain level and with a certain attitude. Therefore, soldiers that are tenured in the unit have already displayed attributes that are fitting and beneficial to unit culture and it is very unlikely they will act in this way. The NCOs should not have to worry about things like this. If the soldier is new to the unit and displays characteristics that are not a good fit to the culture, remove them from the position and place them somewhere else.

Article 15? In my time it was still a different Army. An NCO might have kicked the crap out of him. We had many WW II left overs as NCOs. Geeez, I never though I would be a military dinosaur, and here I am now. I can't believe how fasts time has flown by and how they changed. How soon before we defund the military? Green Lives Mater too.

On the spot & immediate correction. If that includes having his/her sorry ass dragged away - they should have considered such before opening their stupid mouth. When I was an E-2 my NCO would have decked me for such.

Well it sounds like your new E1 needs some wall to wall counseling.

never happened to me personally, but i remember one smart mouth who was 'detached' to stockade for a while . he was 'converted' . when he came back, we never heard his loud smart mouth again .

Immediate counselling is the answer. Something that goes into their jacket for the whole time they are in that unit.

I just want to know wtf a senior E5 is. I'm pretty sure that is still a junior NCO

Is this the first incident? What has been the PV2s prior performance? Is this out of character? With these questions answered You can then frame an appropriate response. If the first offense, release the rest of the formation. Get a reliable witness to be in the area (sad that it has come down to this), put PV2 at parade rest and tell him to keep his c#^k holster shut. Tell him he was completely out of line and then future episodes will be dealt with quickly and appropriately. Review the performance standards for the task set out for him, then have him back brief you. When he has completed the task you will personally inspect to ensure it has been completed to your standards. After completing the initial task, as long as it takes, explain the PV2s position within the unit and that his conduct was unacceptable. Further instances should be addressed with progressive discipline maybe starting with corrective training which will take place on the PV2's own time.

This was an issue for me whenever getting a new soldier into my platoon. They would see a 5’2” woman with freckles and red hair tell them to do something, not a NCO. They would be told to stand fast and reminded quickly that they in the wrong in strong and determined lanquage. That soldier would be my “shadow” for awhile and shown how to be a proper soldier until I felt the soldier was deserving to be an individual again. I was lucky enough to have a platoon of great soldiers to back me up in disciplining the soldier, not physically, but letting the soldier know he was out of line.

Lots to unpack here as they say.

What’s the Command Climate like?
Is the PV2 a problem child?
What’s the PV2s TL like (motivates/think they are a DI/a turd)?

For the sake of argument, command climate is good, PV2 has no previous discipline issues, and TL is good to go.

Everyone but TL and PV2 go execute. You two stand fast. Along with the TL we need to find out what’s going on in PV2s life to cause the outburst. I’ve seen home issues explode at work (kid(s) on their nerves, spouse does nothing but blow money and loaf, etc). More often than not, good mentoring (and follow up) fixes the issue.

Absent more info I can’t move directly to high intensity corrective training.

Inform him in front of the others while still in formation that it was not a request but a command, then ask him is he willing to suffer the consequences of refusing a direct command. This notifies the formation that your not playing games and you will take necessary steps to rectify the situation legally. He now has the choice either obedience or suffer the consequences.

Calmly and deliberately take him to the side and choke slam him. If you're an officer you instruct the PSG to choke slam him.

The Thinking Position works every time.

Well, I really don't know. For one thing when I was in there wasn't even anyone would have the nerve to tell the DI to shove it. Kids now a days have no respect for anyone older. Hell, they even want to call you by your first name instead of your rank. You did that when I was in you would get one shit detail after the another. Razor blading the day room comes to mind, I had to do that myself once with a gang of other boots. From personal inspection, from then on my body hair was shaved and away from the collar. Anyways we all learned about that detail. You learn or the DI would think up something worse. And, there was always something worse that their evil mines had thought up. :) So, you send this dipshit on a detail that he will learn something, like maybe not to question authority. Sending him home isn't going to teach him squat. No one ever got sent home when I was in the service, that was never in the answers. You either made him a soldier to follow orders or if you did get booted out it was less than honorable service. And, that will follow you through life. How can you get a good job with that hanging over your head? Who would want to hire you? You'll get one low paying shit job after another just because you didn't want to follow orders while in the service? How asinine can you get? Huh?? And, how can you live without HONOR. Since I got out, honor has been on the top of the list for me to follow. The jarheads say once a Marine always a Marine. While that may be true, but here's my version of that. Once in the Military, ALWAYS in the military. That followed me so far and today I celebrate my 73 birthday, no longer that dumb ass boot that joined up when he was 18 and just out of high school. And, I was only in for 4 years, and my service followed me this far, and, I don't see it changing. Honor, respect, is where it's at in my life. The thing is if more people joined the military there would be less of the crap that is going on in the civilian sector, now. And, that is where honor & respect comes in. If more civilians had it, you think all the crap that is going on now. Would still be going on? These countries that have mandatory military service don't have the grief with the civilian population like we got. And, it has to start soon here. Or we're going to go down the tubes. Even though I am now a civilian, I don't feel that way. I always say that I'm ex-military, and if you don't like the way I think or talk better get use to it because that's the way I am. Oh, and I can still dead center at 100 yards with iron sights.

Not only will he do it, I will give him extra duty on his weekends.