Posted on Oct 16, 2016
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Here's the background. You're a senior E5. Your troops are in formation and you're handing out work for the day. You hand out an assignment to a fresh E2 with less than a year in and only a few months at your command. They blatantly complain and tell you to choose someone else. You calmly tell them they will do this task and they tell you to shove it and give it to someone else. How do you react?
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SSG Adrian Walker
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Murder him, simply murder him. No muss no fuss.
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MSG Eddie Robinson
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As an E6 reserve going on temporary duty in an active unit, i assigned tasks for the day and had that smart mouthed E3 stand fast. Then had a soldier to soldier talk with him. Next day the PT test came about and he knew he was screwed!.
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MAJ Ralph Barnes
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As an NCO and then as an Officer I made my policy public knowledge. "If you challenge me or dis respect me in public, I will rip your face off in public" Not the best policy but very effective.
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COL Hugh Stirts
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Pull him out of formation and turn him over to my CSM
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COL William Oseles
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Key Part of Example: They blatantly complain and tell you to choose someone else. You calmly tell them they will do this task and they tell you to shove it and give it to someone else.

Summary of the Elements of Article 91: The government may accuse you under article 91 for striking, disobeying or using contemptuous language or disrespect toward a warrant officer, noncommissioned officer, or petty officer of the U.S. armed forces.

At a minimum Counseling, but could just refer to Article 15. Given the gist of the example probably start with a Summarized if the soldier is salvageable or a Company Grade.
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CWO3 Robert Fong
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You immediately lock everyone's heels. Have Seaman Nobody fall out and place him at the front of the crew facing them. Tell the crew Seaman Nobody believes he is better than the rest of the crew and he will be given two choices. Tell Seaman Nobody that if he fails to accept the assignment he will go on report and face Mast. I'd dismiss the crew to their assignments. Now Seaman Nobody has a choice; 1) report to his assignment or 2) Place him on report. The OinC would give him two choices 1) accept Mast (fine, EMI, restriction) or 2) Go on report to the CO, which could result in a Courts Martial. If he accepts number 1 the crew sees that he has given in and is doing what he is ordered to do. If on the other hand he chooses 2 he goes on report and the crew will know it. Either way you stop the infection. Now if he chooses 1 at Mast the crew sees the punishment for being a wise ass, and if he chooses 2 at Mast the crew knows he's doing time in the Brig.
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SSG Bill McCoy
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WOW! First, finish giving assignments and have the PV2 (or SA?) stand fast! Then counsel him on what a Lawful Order is and ascertain if he has any questions. Do it firmly, but calmly. If he gives you ANY crap, take him to the Orderly Room and have him sit while you confer with your supervisor with the intent of (at least) issuing a WRITTEN Counselling Statement. The statement needs to address his insubordination, overall attitude and disrespect.
Any problems after that, he's toast. It is crucially important to keep your cool - firm, but level headed and fair. I called it, "Giving him rope enough to hang himself;" but with the hope that he wakes up to the fact that he's subject to discipline if he continues his stupidity.
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SFC Charles Woods
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I once had a company commander,who,when I first reported to him as part of my newbie welcome,Returned my salute with the following remark,My name is XXX , I am a Capt in the United States Army,I maketh and I taketh away.The first one is on me all the rest are on you.Do you have any Questions PVT. I learned that using that system was a pretty good way to get the job done.A good leader simply must be aware of what the people under him are going through.And if the person is simply being an axxhole then make an example of him/her. Even if there problems at home,get the offender the help they need but make that the offence is corrected.At least,thats the way I see it.
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PO2 Jeffery Reiser
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Pull him/her asside after formation and counsel them and start a paper trail for futer disciplinary purposes...
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SPC Rikk Hillicoss
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PT until total muscle failure. He’ll learn quickly.
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SFC Melvin Brandenburg
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Nip it. Establish dominance. All kinds of unpleasantness. Duty on weekends and evenings. Pet project kind of a thing.
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SSG Byron Hewett
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Front leaning rest position.... MOVE! >80)
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SSG Robert Perrotto
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in CADENCE-Exercise! unfortunately, we have moved away from PT as a corrective measure, and more to administrative actions for infractions.
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SSG Robert Perrotto
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Bottom line up front - I would dismiss my formation WITHOUT tasking anyone else, and tell the troop to stand fast. He/she will have 30 seconds to explain why they told me to shove it, just in case they had a brain to mouth misfire. I do not care if there is any personal issue happening with the troop, one does not address an NCO in that manner, in front of other soldiers, and that at a minimum, a summarized art 15 will be recommended. If the troop is having a serious issue, the Summarized can be suspended, provided another incident like this does not happen again. If the troop is just being defiant, well, that recommendation will upgraded to a company grade at a minimum, and I would seek advice from the PSG, who would probably want to speak with the troop as well. It is one thing to find out what is going on with your Soldier, quite another to allow that Soldier to openly and brazenly disobey an order, with such a blatant disregard for decorum. We all have bad days, I get it, but there is a right way and a wrong way, and this is beyond just being the wrong way.
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SgtMaj Mark Davis
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When I was a young Corporal, I put a Marine on the ground who did that. I got in quite a bit of trouble. My platoon sergeant GySgt Melton called me into his office, ripped me a new one and told me not to do that where others could see it. ;-)
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SP6 Peter Kreutzfeldt
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Keep in mind this is 2021 and a different military. That E5 will have to get in touch with his Mom and ask permission to rectify this problem
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SP6 Peter Kreutzfeldt
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don't know what could have taken place during my time in the Army 67. But refusing an order? nobody in my Company was that foolish
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SSG Dale London
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Back in the day I would probably have looked at him in a cold and calm manner, then said something along these lines: "Seaman Staines, you are obviously operating under the false belief that obeying the lawful order of a Petty Officer in the United States Navy is an optional affair. This is your work assignment and you will complete it to the best of your ability in a timely manner or you will suffer the consequences. Now shut your face before I kick a mud hole in your ass and stomp it dry."

Now that I am a man of God, I would simply advise him to give his soul to Jesus because his butt belongs to me, and then proceed to make his day very unpleasant; all the while praying for his sorry soul.
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MAJ Steve Daugherty
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I would suspect that basic training and AIT aren’t what they used to be for this to happen. But remember that the boss has no friends and too much socializing with subordinates can undermine your authority as well. Some private individual counseling is called for to make sure there are no extenuating circumstances, but then a good ass chewing is probably in order. I really had no problem with the DI’s as my old man was tougher on me than they ever thought of being.
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SPC Marvin Roach
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Times have certainly changed since I was in 50 years ago. At that time you would do fifty push ups, taken out behind the barracks and get an ass kicking. After that would be K P and every crap detail for a month. Sure seemed to work.
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SGT Thomas Chapman
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I have been in this situation as an E-5 to a Buck Pvt. He told He didn't want to do something. I stopped and turned around and told Him I don't remember asking you. Now if you don't want to clean all the latrines in the barracks get the task done which He did.
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SGT George Duncan
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tell them to fall out to first shirts office and then continue allotting work
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