Posted on Jun 12, 2019
I am being told to go to PT by the command on only 4-5 hours of sleep. As a junior enlisted, how do I solve this problem?
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We have a new 1SG and new commander. The 1SG noticed one day that only 5 people in the whole company showed up to PT. Now he put out to all the platoon Sergeants that everyone must show up to PT at either the 0530 formation or the 1600 formation.
However, my section is the only one in the hospital that has a 1600-0000 shift. I am being told by my first line that the 1SG says that I have to be at the morning formation, no exceptions.
I don’t want to sound like I’m whining but at the same time it’s unfortunate that I have to explain to myself as to why this isn’t right.
As a junior enlisted I do feel stuck.
How do I bring this issue up and solve this effectively and professionally?
Also: Do you know of any Army Regulations that can support anything?
However, my section is the only one in the hospital that has a 1600-0000 shift. I am being told by my first line that the 1SG says that I have to be at the morning formation, no exceptions.
I don’t want to sound like I’m whining but at the same time it’s unfortunate that I have to explain to myself as to why this isn’t right.
As a junior enlisted I do feel stuck.
How do I bring this issue up and solve this effectively and professionally?
Also: Do you know of any Army Regulations that can support anything?
Company Commander
Physical Training
Army Regulations
Policy
Edited 6 y ago
Posted 6 y ago
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The answer is the obvious and not the answer you want to hear. Go to PT formation and keep your profile low. Personnel and policies will change as they always do. Depending on your post service job, things can get a lot worse.
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I have a suggestion. Get off your candy butt and go to PT. It’s not about fair it’s about duty and PT is one of your responsibilities
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1sg is keeping you guys fit and working as a team unit. Nothing in your contract makes you special. If things go sideways you'll thank him for keeping you and the unit in shape. I did many 16 hour days than had colatarel duties. Some days you get the bear and some days the bear gets you. Once the 1sg sees improvement I'm sure he'llease up some
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PO2 Joseph Fast
This does kind of make her special. After all if this schedule were translated for day shift people, day shift people would have to come to PT at 0100 to understand. From my understanding she is the only one who has to come to PT at 0100 (her shift equivalent).
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Sorry, if you are looking for sympathy you are looking in the wrong place. Part of you being a fit soldier is performing PT. Like many others who have posted I served in the "old days" 1975-1979. Monday morning "PT" was in formation exercises followed by a in formation 2 mile run. Eventually our command allowed as to break formation and those soldiers who were faster managed to get to the showers before everyone else. PT is part of the Army. Deal with it and when your enlistment is up maybe you will find a nice CEO job (doubtful) and be able to avoid any kind of physical exercise.
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PO2 Joseph Fast
She isn't looking for sympathy. She is trying to fix her 0100 work out time. If we compare her shift to day shift and the work out time, it's basically the same as making a day shift worker come in at 0100 to workout.
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there where many nights I never got a bed to lie on let alone to sleep lol - pvt candy ass I feel so sorry for you ( not in any way )
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Modern-day disaster. Can remember that 4:00 trash can lid being the alarm clock and on the formation at 4:20. One mentioned getting in just in time to change and go puke while running, now those were the days. Get a little rank and think you can be immune that never happened. It may seem like discomfort but someone mentioned perhaps some better time management. I would suggest you have no complaint for today it is your job to figure out how to do it. If you are fortunate enough to get to combat you will be amazed what 30 minutes of sleep will do for you and those who expect nothing less from you.
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PO2 Joseph Fast
You mentioned waking up for the 0420 PT formation. Her's is more like a 0100 PT formation. She has ya beat by about 3 and a half hours.
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Shut your Yap. There are soldier suffering far greater than you. We are legally at war. You'll damn well do what command tells you to do or go to jail. The hell with your sensitivity.
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