I am being told to go to PT by the command on only 4-5 hours of sleep. As a junior enlisted, how do I solve this problem?

That was your choice. She doesn't even have that opportunity. Seriously, imagine working 07-1600 and then being recalled at 2100. Every night. You were getting soju (man I miss that stuff), but she's working.

If she's going to pay the drunkard's price, she ought to at least have the chance to earn it. For now it's just suck because leaders coudln't be bothered to lead.

An old chief once told me if you play the game you gotta pay the piper. Been there and done that but always managed to show up at division quarters, Navy term for muster of working group (division), ready for the day's work. Working 07-1600 where was that? O530 revillee to whatever, don't like it don't ship over. Sleep deperatition is in the mind. Ship and job first, snowflakes. Twelve hours on and twelve hours off in condition two on the gunline on a Destroyer (DDG), Six on Six off for 26 weeks - short handed watcherstanders. Worst of it on your six off there usually was an all hands evolution, refuel, unrep. drills, etc. Officers could hity their staterooms, CPO's there mess but us PO1's and below, usually our bunks except if there were 80 men in the compartment, kinda noise. When I made CPO (E7) a little better but not much. WHat would happen in combat? Hey PLA, Ruissians, North Koreans, Iranians, hold on I am sleep. Live, Train, and Drill as you would fight. If not you might not be around to Bitch. MMCS(SW)(SS) USN Ret.

SCPO Ken Badoian - Sounds like a shitty deployment. But we're not deployed all the time (even though it sometimes seems like it) and even when we are deployed, a good chain of command thinks about what they're making their Sailors do. I've gone to war with Engineering because they chose to run drills in my crews' berthing, day-after-day, kicking night check out.

The fact is, a lot of bad ideas have made their way into the Navy in the past several decades... but also some good ones. We've realized that treating our Sailors like crap doesn't lead to the retention of good Sailors - the ones who are high-performing and know they have options on the outside. I've seen too many of them work their asses off, but when their enlistment was over, there was no way in hell they were sticking around. Why would they?

We've also learned from the Surface Navy's recent history that there IS a price to pay when it comes to sleep deprivation. Our manning requirements mean we can't eliminate it, but we can at least choose not to aggravate it.

I agree but maybe you gotta play real world. I think it is the level of professionalism in todays Navy. But I guess just sitting there and starring at a scope, electronic boards, etc. would be boring. I also agree treating our sailors like professionals downm to the lowest level. The Marines are starting to relize it and the USN shpould be more the RN - I fell they are the most professional of the Western sea services. But also they have dep pride in the "Andrew" something that is missing in the USN. How many sailors do you know see wearing rheir white hats cocked over one eye, salty, and strutting or swaggerying with pride. It starts in the CPO quarters. When I was aan instructor in the LDO/Warrent officers course iat SWOS Newport our XO would come in a give a lecture on MBWA - manage by walking around. Get your butts out of the cpo mess, staterooms, and wardroom and at least daily if not more make a tour of your spaces and do not be affriad if you see something else, from another division, say something to the DO, CPO, or department head. Don't cop a dime. Keep upthe excelent observation Commander.