Posted on Jun 12, 2019
SPC(P) Medical Laboratory Specialist
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We have a new 1SG and new commander. The 1SG noticed one day that only 5 people in the whole company showed up to PT. Now he put out to all the platoon Sergeants that everyone must show up to PT at either the 0530 formation or the 1600 formation.

However, my section is the only one in the hospital that has a 1600-0000 shift. I am being told by my first line that the 1SG says that I have to be at the morning formation, no exceptions.

I don’t want to sound like I’m whining but at the same time it’s unfortunate that I have to explain to myself as to why this isn’t right.

As a junior enlisted I do feel stuck.

How do I bring this issue up and solve this effectively and professionally?
Also: Do you know of any Army Regulations that can support anything?
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SSG Dental Specialist
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Get educated on the Performance Triad and bring it to the Command that way, but make sure you are explaining why you are only getting 4-5 hours of sleep.
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SFC Edwin Alices
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It sounds as it is official. You are whining. There is a regulation that address sleep time. However, it is only applicable during a combat operation. If you care to know what it says, if I remember well the Soldier should be allowed four hour of uninterrupted sleep for during a 24 hours period. During sustained operations, the SM may get one day off after so many days of duty. Again, I do not think this helps you. Follow the orders of your leaders without complaining. You can make a request to your first line leaders. But, I am sure they already are fully aware of the situation.
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CDR Command & Staff
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On naval ships, if you stand the 00-04 watch you still have to be present for the 0700 roll call and do morning activities. You just gotta suck it up and get used to it.
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Since you are Junior Enlisted, you will need to learn the proper use of Chain of Command. Talk to your section leader, then have them talk with the Platoon SGT. You should be able to talk to both at the same time. Just remember, 1SG is proving a point and it probably will not last long. suck it up and go back to bed after PT, your shift starts at 1600... what else would you be doing after 0630 (after an hour PT)?
MSG Richard Worrall
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Go to PT, there is no real difference in doing PT before or after work. IF this life does not suit you, find another job! Being a soldier is an honorable career and it takes a special person to do it.
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CPT Keith Whitter
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Professionally, your main issue is that in order to provide your skills in the most extreme environments under unbelievable conditions you need to train your body to operate at 100% with little or no sleep for as long as it takes. In my eleven years I rarely got 5 hours of sleep. In fact, when I became a civilian it took me a few years to break the cycle of five hours of sleep. My best advice for you is to suck it up and get out there and train your body. The last person you want to make an enemy of is the 1SG. So, go out and prove yourself capable of adapting to these new demands and after a few months of showing the 1SG what your made of put in a written request for either a different shift at the hospital or a different time schedule for PT.
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SFC Unit Supply Specialist
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You got 4 to 5 hours of sleep , and you can’t do PT , and you’re a soldier ? I’ll tell you what my my leaders would tell me and what I would tell my soldiers , suck it up and drive on . Now I could see a problem with quality of life if this was an ongoing issue , where this was happening for months at a time or longer but other than that , your 1SG is in his position to make those calls .
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SPC Infantryman
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Wtf are you talking about?

You have 24 hrs in a day. You know what you do? You do what every human being on earth does who works a night shift: sleep in the day time.

Sucks to suck, but sounds like you dont want to inconvenience your social life. If you go to sleep at 0800 every day, 7 hrs later is 1500.

What is the problem?

This is called 'adulting'. You chose the medical field, this is what the medical field does.

Its also what MP's do, it's what pilots do, SF and Rangers do, it's what a shit load of people do.

It's what grown ass men do.
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SSG Paul Headlee
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You have your orders. Follow them. As soon as you can, write a request addressed to your Company Commander and sent up through your chain of command asking for a deviation from the training schedule. You can provide supporting reasons and ask your PSG or equivalent to go to bat for you too. How is your PT score? Can you handle maintaining an adequate level of fitness on your own? If your company has soldiers who do poorly on the p.t. test the leadership team must fix that. They don't want to be in that situation and that's why you are kind of caught in a challenging position. Regardless of MOS, soldier's need to be disciplined and physically fit. Barring that, we don't need them regardless of how brilliant they are. Sounds like you are trying to carry out the commander's orders, so good on ya for that. Your suggestions will carry more weight when you are consistently doing what is expected of you. Just as an aside, I spent a decent portion of my career in the field and getting 4 hours of uninterrupted sleep in a 24 hour period didn't happen too often. So if I could do it I know you can do it.
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CPT Nicholas Cucchiaro
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You can’t handle it then find another career
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