I am being told to go to PT by the command on only 4-5 hours of sleep. As a junior enlisted, how do I solve this problem?

It seems like your section NCOIC/OIC have no backbones accepting this nonsense. They should approach the 1SG/CO with an alternate plan: PT 1330-1430, Hygiene/Meals 1430-1530, Formation/Duty 1530-1600. It's your Section NCOIC/OIC's duty to recommend this to your 1SG/CO.

How about Option 3 - a mandatory PT session built at a time for this shift. As a military leader, we are to take care of our people...sometimes that means we are the ones who bend. PT, yes, needed. On a rigid time that benefits the 1SG vice the team, not needed. When on home station duty, we need to remember our service members have real lives as well. Many are taking college classes using TA - let's get the mission done while setting them up for success.

nothing will or is going to happen because they will always pull rank, this is an ego trip type bs "look at me and my rank" situation. did he put out the proper information for the initial pt session and if so why didn't anyone brief this first sarnt about how schedules work around the hospital and that different shifts operate on diff times? I do not see how hard it would be for him to has his senior staff come out with a proper way of doing pt and a proper way for the first sarnt to micromanage I meant to come by and check-in or even join the pt session.
Ultimately though(as sure as I am that NCOs ask soldiers to have everything in the company done before anyone could go home and it was after end-of-day formation) they will always "PULL RANK!!!"
GOOD LUCK AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE....

Frankly, this one is pretty easy....you go to PT. ANYBODY who has deployed will tell you that 5 hours of sleep is a luxury. Besides, you are assuming that you have to sleep at night. I see a huge window in your schedule from roughly 0700 to 1600 where you can get a solid 8 hours sleep...unless you are not telling us the entire picture. I get that you don't like it, but there are many worse situations I can think of. Shipboard life is typically port and starboard (12 on and 12 off) PLUS a 4-hour watch. Combat patrols are sometimes days long and have VERY FEW opportunities to sleep. The bottom line is that it is a lawful order and you need to follow it. Military life is a life of sleep deprivation - get used to it.

So my schedule is 0630 pt work 900-1630 and then go to bed at 2230-2300 and get less than 6 hours of sleep, waking up to get to pt and still having time to sleep you'll be fine.

Hate to say it this way, but suck it up. Don't know how many times I worked an 8 hour day, had 4 hours off (or less) and then pulled the 20-24 or balls to 4 watch and then worked another 8 hour day. I'm surprised your leadership cadre let it get so bad that only 5 from a whole company showed up for PT. Normally something like that is considered a standing order and you don't get to pick and choose what orders you follow.

PT on 4-5 hours sleep was standard operating procedure when I was in

You are in the Army, aren't you? I know it's not the Marine Corps but you better man up. Just kidding about the remark suggesting the army is less than the Marine Corps. But I was dead serious about you manning up. I can recall so many times in Vietnam when we had contact and most times it wasn't at the perfect time. And I can also recall going without sleep for a prolonged period of time and then having to hump all day up and down mountains during the monsoons etc. My point is that yes, you might have been tired. But that's life my friend. Many times you might be called on to perform with little to no sleep. You don't request mast to resolve the situation. You pick up your gear and get with the program. And bitchin about it won't do anything.

if you get 4 to 5 hours of sleep, what's your complaint? Do you think our enemy will be as cordial?

I could be wrong in this situation, but it looks like a normal situation of a new command. What I saw repeatedly in different units while on active duty is that the new command CO and 1st SGT are not from the field they are now in command of. It seems that any commander from the medical field should know how life support/health care work and should take charge of his NCO and reschedule as needed. I have seen many units that used a sign in roster for pt to be able to show for further inspection that the unit is physically up to par.

I have also seen a lot of officers and higher NCOs that are from other units, or that have reclassed, come in and not understanding how a MP unit, or field hospital, or maintenance unit is NOT SF. This often happens after a life altering injury and reclass out of an infantry unit.

Unfortunately, the only fix I know of is time. Sometimes after reenlistments drop, or enough requests for pcs, the upper command will see it and make a change. If you love your work, stick it out and command will change again, or you will go somewhere else.

Best of luck.

The UCMJ ( if that is even applicable today) states, allows 4 hrs. Of sleep in 24 hrs. I ain't nothing special but as the men with me on many occasions, for 3 or 4 days without sleep was not uncommon. A cat nap, one man at a time was all. If it was what you referring to as "sleep" was done...CHARLIE would see to it you woke up with your throat cut. Boy Scouts get to sleep to play, In war you stay awake to live. Sounds like a personal problem to me. Chaplains hours are 9 to 12. Or quit.

Your in the Military roll with it

As an ongoing thing, talk to the PSG and set up a separate PT session for your section. In the meantime, suck it up

When I was stationed in Germany, I worked the night shift in a computer operations section for logistics. Our work schedule was 1630 until we got finished with our nightly work schedule. Some nights, we worked until 1930, some nights, we worked until 0600. Our section was exempt from morning PT formation and morning formation. Our OIC worked this all out with the company and battalion commanders. We were still responsible for getting our workouts in, because we were NOT exempt from PT tests, weapons qual, and the duty roster. I would recommend that this particular soldier needs to have a chat with his NCOIC and OIC as to have a more logical solution to his particular dilemma.

Suck it up. I was in a SIGINT unit where we did rotating shifts. Days, eves, mids, & then two days off. We would work all night & then have to do PT, do the APFT, train for the range, go to the range & qualify, & then do all kinds of things. And don't you dare fall asleep. If the PT field was getting the grass cut or the range had issues, we would have to mull around until things were ready. Sometimes in the afternoon. This occurred at several strategic assignments I was at. Our favorite time for the APFT in Hawaii was at midnight after an evening shift. It was laid back, cooler, & nobody else around. We just had to whisper loudly so we didn't disturb those who worked normal hours. Is it fair? No. But it does have it's benefits. Make sure to grab good sleep time when you can & when you do go to war, you won't be crying when the enemy attacks you after only 2 hours asleep. Been there & done that too.

Too many anecdotal stories of coming to PT still feeling the effects of drinking the night before (especially in Germany). That was nothing compared to being in Korea during that time. Not only the aftereffects of Mechcu but add in the smell of Kimchi coming out through the sweat pores and it is far worse.
As for the problem of the SPC (P), since she posted this two years ago, I would have liked to know as a soon-to-be NCO how she resolved the issue. It is not fair that her shift was treated differently. She did not say how many people were affected by the policy, there is strength in numbers.

Under the regs have changed since I ETSed, leadership is required to give you the opportunity to sleep for 7 hours (but not consecutively). As said by all responses, it sucks. However, it is also a poor leadership decision which obviously is leading to poor morale. I would talk to my team leader, squad leader, and platoon sergeant. But don't just go and complain. I am sure they already know that the situation sucks and is bring down the company's morale. Instead, trying to come up with a viable solution to the problem that might appeal to your 1SG or at least your NCOs will be able to sell to him. Then, with solution(s) in hand, talk to your NCOs. Present to them the problem, the consequences of the problem (lower morale, likely lower numbers of Soldiers reupping, etc), and then the possible solutions that might be acceptable to your 1SG. Think seperate formations and PT for each shift with a weekly or monthly 0530 PT formation for the whole or majority of the company. You have to give something.

There's my two cents. Best of luck.

Suck it up or kick rocks. Some of us went on 30 minutes asleep a day for months overseas. Maybe try to get less sleep on your own and adjust. Tower guard is always an option too.

My suggestion is to talk to the 1SG off line explain your situation and work out an alternative

Army regulations state that you be allowed only 6 hours downtime while in garrison and 4 hours downtime while on FTX or deployed. Those are down times, and if it takes you half an hour to fall asleep you get 3 and a half or 5 and a half hours sleep. This is why you learn to sleep when you can and fall asleep fast. You are a soldier, you chose this, you swore an oath and now you're going to whine about having to follow orders because you need your nappy time? Suck it up and grab a nap before and after or just plan your sleep time for after and stay the hell awake until PT is over. You have from zero hundred hours until formation, then I would imagine an hour and a half PT at most so you have from 0700 until 1600, that alone is 9 hours after PT.