Posted on Jun 12, 2019
SPC(P) Medical Laboratory Specialist
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We have a new 1SG and new commander. The 1SG noticed one day that only 5 people in the whole company showed up to PT. Now he put out to all the platoon Sergeants that everyone must show up to PT at either the 0530 formation or the 1600 formation.

However, my section is the only one in the hospital that has a 1600-0000 shift. I am being told by my first line that the 1SG says that I have to be at the morning formation, no exceptions.

I don’t want to sound like I’m whining but at the same time it’s unfortunate that I have to explain to myself as to why this isn’t right.

As a junior enlisted I do feel stuck.

How do I bring this issue up and solve this effectively and professionally?
Also: Do you know of any Army Regulations that can support anything?
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SSG Raul Alaniz
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Go to P.T. There, problem solved.
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Sgt Phillip Walden
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You alleviate this by sucking it up and going to do PT. If you don’t work until 1600, go home, take a nap, go
PT and then go back to sleep after PT. It’s your job to be physically fit and a leader.
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LtCol Andrew Horne
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Every deployed person has been required to perform with less sleep than that. Suck it up.
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Chris Agnew
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The best way to solve this is by staying motivated, stay hydrated and eat healthy. Don't forget to sound off. Five hours sleep is enough to do some PT.
If this doesn't work, file a hurt feelings report under the weak mind category.
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LTC Ron Stephens
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God help you if you EVER experience a war deployment. Your grade and MOS won't mean jack when you are turning back an attempt to kill you and you haven't gotten a wink of sleep in 2 or more days. Buckle up buttercup.
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PO1 Yeoman
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You go to PT and do as ordered. Thats how you solve your problem.
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PO2 James Brewster
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You ARE whining and it's very unbecoming of a military person. Don't ever try to become an aircrewman, you WON'T last a week in training. What has happened to the US military???
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On duty until 0000 / 2400, you shouldn't be required to be at PT at 0530. Suggest you Have your Section Chief (NCO) ask the 1SGT if your section can do PT at 1400? If that doesn't work, ask the first officer in your chain the same thing. If ALL else fails, work your way up the chain; as a final resort approach the IG. WHATEVER you do - be where you are TOLD to be in the right uniform with a good attitude...even if the whole thing Sucketh.
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I worked have worked swing shift 1600-0000. We conducted PT as shifts. My company at the time had three different shifts and every shift would just do pt 1.5hr before their work time. Not sure if your shift already does that but that's not right that you should have to do pt 5.5hrs after work. Having 0000-0500 for personal time doesn't work because nothing is open at that time, can't go to appointments or the store. So your sleep schedule will constantly get messed up. This problem is not black and white but so many are looking at this problem in this thread that way. Sure embrace the suck and shut up, but when the mission and PERFORMANCE OF THE MISSION should come first and this COC is only worried how their formation looks in the morning is a problem. The problem is the Army is everyone is always worried about how something looks. How about we use all these initiatives the army keeps putting out about quality of life for soliders and "This is my Squad" and take care of this solider and help him/her instead of telling them to get over it. When someone commits suicide because of stuff like this how would you feel if you told them to get over it. So many people on Rally point are so quick to criticize and dismiss issues it's embarrassing that this is the community response people get for asking for help.
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TSgt John Brody
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This is a classic example of so-called 'leadership' being disconnected from reality. Shift work is VERY detrimental to health and morale.
Wouldn't it be better to either 1) make PT part of the shift or 2) have the Soldier log their own PT?
I mean, we do trust them to PT right?
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