Posted on Jun 12, 2019
I am being told to go to PT by the command on only 4-5 hours of sleep. As a junior enlisted, how do I solve this problem?
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We have a new 1SG and new commander. The 1SG noticed one day that only 5 people in the whole company showed up to PT. Now he put out to all the platoon Sergeants that everyone must show up to PT at either the 0530 formation or the 1600 formation.
However, my section is the only one in the hospital that has a 1600-0000 shift. I am being told by my first line that the 1SG says that I have to be at the morning formation, no exceptions.
I don’t want to sound like I’m whining but at the same time it’s unfortunate that I have to explain to myself as to why this isn’t right.
As a junior enlisted I do feel stuck.
How do I bring this issue up and solve this effectively and professionally?
Also: Do you know of any Army Regulations that can support anything?
However, my section is the only one in the hospital that has a 1600-0000 shift. I am being told by my first line that the 1SG says that I have to be at the morning formation, no exceptions.
I don’t want to sound like I’m whining but at the same time it’s unfortunate that I have to explain to myself as to why this isn’t right.
As a junior enlisted I do feel stuck.
How do I bring this issue up and solve this effectively and professionally?
Also: Do you know of any Army Regulations that can support anything?
Company Commander
Physical Training
Army Regulations
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You sound like one of those whiney kids looking for a loophole to get out of what is required. I was a firefighter my whole career working 24 hour shifts and many times I've had to get off work and go to PT. Many times I've had to finish my shift then go to a military deployment exercise that lasted most of the night then get back to work for my next shift. You're in the military. It's like having two jobs with one paycheck. Your job you were trained to do and your military job where you continue to train to be ready for war. Suck it up buttercup. Don't reenlist when your tour is up. You're not cut out for it. You coworkers need you at 100 %
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You raised your hand to defend the USA. Your expected to do your duty irregardless of the time required. PT only gets harder to pass as you get older. Or the other choice is to be discharged. Quit winning and get on it!
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Man, there really is a new generation out there full of pansy's and baby's ....Take your PT and you are whiny you little baby!!!! You are in the Military ----it is right----C'mon dude wake up !!!
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WOW, really??? If TOP has a "desire" for everyone show up for PT, it would behoove you to be there, PERIOD. You get off work at 0000, you can hit the sack and have plenty of rest to attend, no excuse. If you CHOOSE to go out drinking after work, and you only get 3 or 4 hours sleep, that's on you. You're in the Army and there are things that are expected of you, suck it up, go to PT, and if it's too much for you, ETS will come soon enough.
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Take your pick and attend one or the other you volunteered to be a soldier doing PT is part of being a soldier get off your lazy butt and go to PT formation it is a requirement not a request. Comply or get out of military!!!
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Talk to the NCOIC of your shift to set up PT from 1400 to 1500.. if your suggestions fall on deaf ears, remember this experience when you become a NCO.
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I had to deal with same crap when we were deployed to Baghdad. I worked a midnight to noon shift in the toc and also ran missions as the commanders gunner but someone put out MANDATORY pt sessions. Everyone had to either make 0700 or 1600 pt, and I couldn't go at 0700 so I'd fall asleep at like 1pm have to wake up for 1600pt then go back to sleep til 2330 or maybe end up going on missions. I guess it's just stuff ya gotta deal with in the military.
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Train as if your life may depend on it. War comes with no sleep rules. Do the PT and then shower and rest if it is in the schedule. I spent 42 hours without more than a cat nap and had to fight for much of the last 2 hours. Training and PT are not punishment. they are preparation. Your attitude toward it may keep you alive or get you killed. Be careful what you wish for, and remember you joined the Army you weren't drafted.
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In my day, 1981-2001 if you worked that shift, then PT was done in the afternoon. We did a thing called reverse duty training, where we flipped the day to first call at 1600, PT at 1700, and so on. Whoever your operations NCO is, they are not planning this right. Your position, and those that follow the same duty time frame should have your day adjusted accordingly. That being said, remember, follow your last order, and suck it up, however make your concern known.
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Theres is regs , but it is also training to see how a soldier fubctions through deprived sleep as in a war time siruation , there is some instructors who check previous testing scores to see how each soldier handles the situation on a individual and group basis.
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I think that there would be time between PT and work un the afternoon to sleep. When I worked third shift, I had to adjust to sleeping all day and working or doing my own thing at night. I also had to be up at 0700 to take kids to school. There is 8 consecutive hrs for rest in that schedule. Maybe just not the same hours ofvthe day as others who work 1st shift. Sleep after PT in a dark room and get adjusted to day light sleeping like the rest of the working world that have night jobs. Soon, I'm sure, you will be able to get a day shift as your seniority improves. That's the real life, military or not.
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My first question is: I thought PT was mandatory - exceptions being those working at that time. Did that change??
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stop hanging out at the club and get your sleep. I can remember when we had PFT that overseas in the Philippines. guys would be coming in from the clubs and try to run PFT then throw up. me I would stay on base. and run the PFT.
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sucks working shifts I know, ask your supervisor to attend a meeting with the 1Sg to address the issue and point out the issues....conversely you could just stay up and go to the 0530 PT....and sleep during the day?
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