I am being told to go to PT by the command on only 4-5 hours of sleep. As a junior enlisted, how do I solve this problem?

You’re a soldier 24 seven you do as you’re told. What did you expect from the military? Sounds like you want to be coddled. People like you want to change the military for your own benefit. That’s bullshit! I served in the infantry in the army and I did as I was told. Come on on For you need to grow a pair.

During the first gulf war during the ground offensive we were lucky to get 2 hours of sleep that was including the medics in the track within our mech infantry company. No one said the military was easy and as other have said we have to sacrifice somethings know when to get to sleep when you get off work and save your free time for when you have days off.

Quit whinnying, your in the Army

I see this is still going. The number of people who topped out at E4 offering career advice is rather amusing *chuckles in senior NCO*

You suggest to the lead SNCO or NCO on your shift, that your shift have its own PT session at 1430 1500 and that he or she work that out with the 1SG.

Just out of curiosity... How weak is the officer and SNCO leadership? I cannot fathom a officer, SNCO, or NCO believing a unit formation is "optional." I'm guessing your officers don't show up for unit PT. Someone needs to hand them their ass.

You're kidding, right? This is a joke post? Life is about being tired but saddling up and doing what needs to be done anyway. Even as a civilian, you'll run into days where you couldn't get to sleep the night before (for a year if you have a kid) you still have to drag your ass out of bed and get to it anyway.

You're in the military, learning to function on little to no sleep is part of the job description. It's not always smart (I remember working on aircraft with little to no sleep) but sometimes it's just gotta be done.

CPT Giacomo M.
Are you fucking kidding me? It isn't right? You are a whining pussey. Get you shit together and grow a pair.

Go to PT and quit whining!
I never sleep more than 6 hours a night. I get up and go to work for 10 hours then home for 3 or 4 hours more work around the house the give the wife a pickle tickle and go to bed.

I don't want to sound unsympathetic but I served 16 years -- 13 of which as a shift worker. Sometimes working 8 hour shifts -- others working 12 hours, and in the field often going for more than 24 hours without sleep.
Doing PT is not a problem to be solved. It is part of your job... your duty. If you think you have it rough just talk to a deployed sailor at sea who never gets more than a solid 3 1/2 hours in his rack at a shot.
How do you solve this problem? You catch a few extra winks when you can. You get up, show up for duty (and PT) and take whatever time your command gives you to catch your rest.
But the complaint, "I only slept 4 hours..." will not hold any water.
I have felt your pain myself and can tell you without fear of contradiction that this is one of the suckier elements of the army. But it is also universal. We all have had periods (even extended periods) of time when nothing was convenient.
I have one constructive comment for you though: if you are part of a significant number of people who all are working the same shift as you, you might be able to convince your 1SG to let you all do PT together at a more appropriate time. I don't see him letting you do it on your own if your CO wants everyone in organised PT.

Prior to even being in the military, I got 2-4 hours of sleep a night before starting a new day and going on with work and then more going out. In your 20-30's you should be able to effectively work on 4-5 hours of sleep. After I got in, in my 30's and on a ship, I could be up for easily 18-22 hour days depending on when watches fell during the workday. If you are having such a hard time, you really might want to look into getting into another line of work. Sorry no sympathy here, the military is not what you should have chosen if sleep was a priority.

Dang - stop whining and hit the rack again after PT! This isn't summer camp or the Girl Scouts, this is the Army! Don't like it, don't re-enlist, but remember you signed a contract and swore an oath!!!

as a retired member of the armed services I to remember complaining about PT , glad to see somethings have not changed. LMAO.
After #) plus years of military service, and as a retired Coast Guard Chief,
MY best advice is to just suck it up butter cup.
Complaining only gets you a bad Reputation.
but and it a big but if you are going to push this because you believe in safe spaces, and every one gets a Trophy, hugs and time outs because they are stressed .

The best Advice i can give you is to come up with a few possible solution that doesnt make you sound like your trying to get out of PT!
the reason you do PT in the AM is to avoid the heat of the day and to wake you up, along with a few other reasons , maybe Suggest the 1600 PT Formation would be a better time for your Company. where you are more rested, but wait ....that is impossible, because you will be at work. so you really have no option unless you can convince your 1SG to allow your company to work out at say 1400 in the extreme heat of the day , this will give your company time to rest , work out there PT schedule , take a shower and get to work .

never go to your Supervisor without a few different solutions to your Problems, make sure your company on board with the Suggestions your taking to your 1ST Sergeant, he may toss them out the window or in the trash, or he may Consider them .

Most Importantly he will know you just did not come to him complaning about the problem , you offered some Suggestions , and hopefully a solution to the situation, so every one is happy.
the command is ensuring the company fitness, and you got your rest.

just remember If you stay in the serviceLong enough One day you will be the senior enlisted personal, you do not want a bunch of cry babys in your company, you want men who get the job done, who come up with SOLUTIONS TO THE PROBLEMS , you want to be pleasantly Surprised By the OUTSTANDING RESULTS OF THERE PERFORMANCE AND DUTYS. you want to know your Company can be Trusted to handle anything they are tasked with, they will PLEASANTLY SURPRISE YOU WITH THE RESULTS !

Time management! Stay up after your shift and go to pt at 0530. After pt get breakfast and go to bed. Sleep 7-1500. 8 hrs sleep, problem solved.

I worked all different kinds of shifts. I don’t know anyone who goes right home and falls asleep after getting off at midnight. No one.

Stay up, go to PT, go back to wherever, sleep. Get up at 1400-1500 and prepare for shift.

That being said, if you have an entire section that works this particular shift, I would think that the section NCOIC would already have a plan in place to conduct PT. If anything, that is the individual you should be working up your chain to speak to.

I suppose that you volunteered for this? In 1967 We Stood 12 hour 1800-0600 watches in the Gun mount and had three unreps in one day. So every three days one was 36 hours...

I think you may have your priorities mixed up. Even though I was "only" ARNG for 8 years, I did not drink, smoke or "club" during the entirety of my contract.

Gee a new Army. Stay sloppy and Blame your NCO. The rest of your lazy friends will support you. Makes you sick seeing this on important day like June 6.

When I was in I was told I will only be promised 4 hours of sleep per 24 hours. I don’t want to be or sound like an ass. But we fright like we train and we train like we fight. In combat you can’t have a rest period because of lack of sleep. It sucks somedays. I would say embrace the suck.

Honestly, this seems like a time management problem. You work from 1600-0000. Are you not sleeping before that, say 0700 to 1500? You'd get a solid 8 hours which many folks do not get and still have time between work and PT to do whatever. You could also split the sleep time if you like to nap before PT. I do not see an issue here. Many folks still have to go to PT after 24-hour staff duty; which I could understand fighting against.

While the previous are all true, you might want your platoon sergeant to ask if you could talk to your 1SG to consider his appointing a PSG (yours) a PT session for off set platoons. Most 1SGs will understand you can not physically be in two places at once. As for being at am PT, get used to it.