I am being told to go to PT by the command on only 4-5 hours of sleep. As a junior enlisted, how do I solve this problem?

Change from a mini pad to a maxi pad.

Solve it by going to PT. Bring it up after the fact.

4-5 hrs. Staying in shape was number 1 priority when I was in combat .Later it will help keep the depression away. Complain now live later.

You ARE whining SNOWFLAKE! GET your SORRY ASS OUT OF THE RACK AND GET TO PT!!! Be VERY happy you are in the Army because, in the Marine Corps, someone would be throwing you and your rack out the window and then jumping on your back to get your sorry ass moving. You would then be doing PT until you drop and then for another hour more. What have you done to the US Army to ask such a pansy assed question? If you don't like it, get out and join the Girl Scouts! They have a special branch for you that you may be able to handle called the Brownies! Jesus' mother of Christ What kind of crybaby are you? Are there any Army Regulations covering this? HELL YES! It's called the UCMJ, Disobedience of a Direct Order!!!! Now gert UP or GET OUT!!!

First, you never have to worry about a question you ask on here. We share experiences and outlooks to help each other and no question is wrong if it's important to you.
It sounds like they are testing your desire to soldier. You've been in long enough to know what you are doing of you wouldn't be a Spc
So, maybe they are seeing if you got the extra drive it takes to be an NCO. That or you made someone feel butt hurt. Either way, you soldier on.
These years are going to be full of sleepless nights and doing things that you feel are unfair again xx suck it up and soldiler on. Show them you can hang and they will learn you are the real deal. Personally xx o can't recall a day in USEUR where I got an honest 8 hour's of sleep. If it's really too much then you should talk to your section chief. But you've already done the hard part, don't let a little thing like this stop you from being the troop you signed up to be.
Yer pal,

Don't know what the rules are in the Army but when I served (62-68) the only folks who got to sleep in were those who had the 2400 t0 0400 watch and then only until 0700 or 0800. For everyone else reveille went at 0530. If you are not at the 0530 PT formation and you go on duty at 1600 when do you plan to do PT? I hope that you are not trying to say that your shift doesn't need PT. Perhaps the senior individual on this shift should come up with an alternative plan to present to your 1st Sergeant.

You have to remember the military is not civilian life and everything has a time and a purpose.

We did PT 5 days a week Stateside, if you complained you’d be doing it weekends also. If you can’t follow those orders from your Senior NCO’s need a new line of work.

Go to PT and give it your best or be prepared for the Art 15 for failure to follow instructions/ AWOL, No place in your Army contract was there a guarantee of 8 hours sleep at any point and I would bet my last $ that if its something you want to do you would be there with less sleep and smiling the whole time...
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You do realize that the regulation just says 4hrs of sleep is mandatory, it doesn’t say it has to be consecutive. I’ve come off staff duty to go to PT before I got released for the day.
The bottom line is that the military isn’t supposed to be for cream puffs or selfish douches, however, it’s getting softer to accommodate people that should probably just get out and make room for those that want to be warfighters. I have said this to my soldiers and I’ll say it to you: I’ll bring you a straw to help you suck it up. Now take a knee, drink some water and drive on. Those are the best words of advice that I was given when I was a private.

Suck it up.
or, walk into the Commanders office and punch him/her out. Jump up on the desk and take a tremendous dump.
Wait for the MPs.
You won't have to worry about lost sleep or those nasty old PT formations.

I would take this to my first line supervisor. Either they allow you to PT at 1600, when you come on shift, or they allow you to PT separately, and as long as you make height and weft and pass the PT test I don't see how they would not allow this.

If your first line supervisor can not get anything done, I would then go to the next guy up, until i got to the 1SG directly, I would quite frankly, directly, and with respect explain my specific situation to my 1SG. I would explain that since you do not get off duty till midnight, and you need to eat, and shower, etc, that you don't have time to get the needed rest to do your PT AND your shift.

I would very directly explain how your lack of sleep, is putting patients at risk on your shift at the hospital. And I would ask why the 1600 formation could not be moved to say 1400 so you can PT and then shower before your shift.

If that did not work, I would talk to one of the doctor's at the hospital and see if they can intervene.

If that doesn't work you can try the IG.

It doesn't make any sense to have a pt formation for second shift the same as the pt formation for everyone else.

The best advice I can give you is this:

Bitching is complaining without an solution. Constructive Criticism is seeing a problem, recognizing the problem, and fixing the problem. It is much easier to get what you want, if you already have a workable solution when you present your problem. That way the morons in charge don't have to try and figure it out on their own. And it sounds like you have some rocks in your chain of command.

Young man or woman, which ever is appropriate, all us vets have been through the same situation and have lived through it. Remember you are in the military, and if you can't hack the loss of sleep to carry out lawful orders, I suggest after your tour find another career in life. You was never promised a rose garden!

Suck it up buttercup.

Go to PT or leave the Army.

An 8 hour shift means you have 14 hours to do what you want, assuming your PT session is 2 hours. It sounds like you need to work on your time management. At my hospital the ER medics work 12 hour shifts and conduct PT before their shifts.

I feel that you do need your rest to function right, but at the same time its about trying to manage your time right...on deployment its usually worse depending your MOS

the key words and tricky phrases goes that you've sworn to uphold the Constitution and obey the Uniform Code of Military Justice. Following Lawful Orders.
First off, You must be able to wake from a sound sleep, evaluate the situation and respond appropriately with very little sleep. It's Not a Management Style Question, but a Needs of the Military Question.
In many cases You won't have the option of being fully rested before you are required to exert yourself. Like All those Movies point out, the bad guys won't be waiting for you to get your beauty sleep, and many of the more successful attacks take place at night, when people are sleeping.

LOL. youngster, that is something you should have worked out before you signed the contract of enlistment. That contract says you do what you told when you're told as long as the telling is lawful.

Yes, you are whining and yes I am being hard; but my hardness is a hardness that was won through many mistakes. You have a responsibility, fulfill it. If it grates on you, do not re-enlist. Until then, honor your contract so you can live with yourself.

I don't care what your rate or MO is in the military, your basic function is to fight when called upon, and fighting is much like being a starter on an NFL team, you have to be in the best shape you can be if you want to be effective, and to be anything less is to let down your teammates.

Get over yourself and go do your PT. If you're only getting 4- 5 hours of sleep, there is a problem. Is that problem scheduling or personal preference in staying up to watch a TV program, play with the baby's mother, or whatever.....when you put that shit in front of honoring your contract and doing your duty, you are going to lose.

I can't believe that this is a problem. Shut up and do as you are told.