Posted on Aug 15, 2021
I got a DUI this weekend. What can I expect and what can I do to get through this?
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What can I expect? I haven't been in a situation like thus before with ucmj or trouble with the unit.
Most guys I know were retained but it was years ago. How can I stay in and make this right. I deeply regret what I've done.
Most guys I know were retained but it was years ago. How can I stay in and make this right. I deeply regret what I've done.
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What SFC Livingston said below. Immediately self refer yourself to ASAP or whatever it is called now and hope that little bit helps. Keep your head up and fight. This is disappointing to hear as you are a SSG, but we understand that it was unintentional. Just be grateful to God above that you did not kill anybody and you were caught before it could've happened. DO NOT ALLOW THIS INCIDENT TO DIG YOU INTO DEPRESSION AND THOUGHTS OF SUICIDE. You know what you did wrong, it happens for a reason. Whatever the outcome, re-lace your boot straps, drive on, and make up for your shortcoming by striving to be as successful as you possibly can be.
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Lt Col Timothy Cassidy-Curtis - Of course. Was just unable to edit it from the phone app. Have to do it from my actual PC. Thank you for the heads up, Sir.
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SPC Daniel Dresen
How do you "unintentionally" drink? Any time I planned on drinking, I've locked my keys in my car, hidden out of site, and took and Uber or taxi. I know a person's inhibitions go out the window while drunk, but the choice to drink was his.
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Sgt Ed Allen
SPC Daniel Dresen - Getting a DUI was a choice that was made before the first drink was consumed. He didn't plan ahead and have a designated driver.
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Expedia GOMOR. Expect that GOMOR to trigger a QMP. Expect the QMP board to separate you. If you have medical issues start working on your MEB
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CAPT Edward Schmitt
SSG Bill McCoy - Thank you for your efforts and work. Intoxication kills a lot of people and your efforts are making a difference one person at a time
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SSG Bill McCoy
CAPT Edward Schmitt - Thanks Captain ... that was back in the 70's; but I am active with local PD's and the Sheriff for Critical Incident Response.
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AN Tony Leding
"You can’t expect perfection from humans, only improvement." -- More true words are seldom said but far too often forgotten...
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SSG (Join to see) like most bad news this won't improve with age. Talk with your chain of command now. Let them know how you messed up. Provide them with the details regarding civilian law enforcement and judicial system. You stepped on the snake. It' s gonna hurt.
You will have to deal with this problem on several levels.
-Civilian judicial system. Depending on where you live you will be looking at court dates and possible fines and maybe jail time. Loss or suspension of driver's license for sure. Recommend you get a civilian lawyer who specializes in DUI.
-Military judicial system. Your commander will decide on the appropriate actions under the UCMJ. If you get off with an Article 15, you're lucky. Talk to the JAG "area defense counsel."
-Military Admin system. You may be required to attend behavioral health counseling. Possibly some type of 12-step program. You might be forced out of the Service. BTW, the counseling is a good idea even if not required. Something caused you to make a stupid decision. May be removed from position of leadership. Your security clearance status may be adversely effected.
Personally you just acquired a new set of challenges. You will have lots of things to work through, but they are not necessarily unsurmountable. Try to maintain a positive approach to the situation leading to resolution of the underlying problem that may have caused your inappropriate overconsumption of a drug (alcohol) and subsequent operation of a motor vehicle. If you have an otherwise clean record, you might be allowed to remain in the Army.
You will have to deal with this problem on several levels.
-Civilian judicial system. Depending on where you live you will be looking at court dates and possible fines and maybe jail time. Loss or suspension of driver's license for sure. Recommend you get a civilian lawyer who specializes in DUI.
-Military judicial system. Your commander will decide on the appropriate actions under the UCMJ. If you get off with an Article 15, you're lucky. Talk to the JAG "area defense counsel."
-Military Admin system. You may be required to attend behavioral health counseling. Possibly some type of 12-step program. You might be forced out of the Service. BTW, the counseling is a good idea even if not required. Something caused you to make a stupid decision. May be removed from position of leadership. Your security clearance status may be adversely effected.
Personally you just acquired a new set of challenges. You will have lots of things to work through, but they are not necessarily unsurmountable. Try to maintain a positive approach to the situation leading to resolution of the underlying problem that may have caused your inappropriate overconsumption of a drug (alcohol) and subsequent operation of a motor vehicle. If you have an otherwise clean record, you might be allowed to remain in the Army.
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SSG Eric Blue
1stSgt John Running - I like the Article 7.5, 1SG. I now have a name for what I sometimes saw in Korea. BUT I also saw Sergeants First Class & Staff Sergeants who lost an arc from what they did out in front of the Battalion or Squadron HQ breaking rocks like Joe & Jane. You might be right about them not getting away with that today, though. But I saw "different" stuff when I was in Korea from 2013 to 2014.
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1stSgt John Running
SFC Kelly Fuerhoff - Are you sure they were charged, as in NJP or Courts Martial, or were they chaptered out? Admin discharge is also usually done when everything else is complete
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SGT Hector Rojas, AIGA, SHA
1stSgt John Running - Double jeopardy? no such thing.
Even if you want to try that approach, this SSG already violated regulations (190-5, 385-10, and 600-55) by driving intoxicated. So he's already used his non-existent "double jeopardy".
Hell, if his unit is worth their salt, this SSG should lose driving on base privileges.
Even if you want to try that approach, this SSG already violated regulations (190-5, 385-10, and 600-55) by driving intoxicated. So he's already used his non-existent "double jeopardy".
Hell, if his unit is worth their salt, this SSG should lose driving on base privileges.
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