Posted on Feb 22, 2019
I lied at MEPS. Will they go back and look through my medical records?
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I lied at meps . I was told I had heart murmur when I was 6 and was told that I would grow out of it little to say I didn’t they found it at meps . I have to go to a cardiologist 3 weeks from now to say if it’s a no go or not . The doctor who found it said it not a big deal and they will let me in . But I’m afraid that they will go back on my medical records and find out I lied . A bunch of others told me to just play dumb . What do you think will they look back on my medical records after finding a heart murmur ?
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John Kellen you are aware you are on a public website and that anyone can read this, right?
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PO3 Kenneth Suvanto
SSG Katherine Likely - Ssgt Katherine Ma'am, he's just a puppy asking for advice. Sincerely, Ken
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You have runs risk that a Soldier could not live with. You will not be able to live the Army values and lead Soldiers in the future. It is best that you speak with your recruiter and explain that you failed to mention it as your doctor told you it was not an issue. You were torn and want to be honest. Own this and you may be surprised, if nothing else you will have evolved as a man.
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SGT Edgar Reyes
CSM Darieus ZaGara - you just basically agreed with me. "I did try to always follow the letter of the law, I made many mistakes along the way, the way I felt with it was through honesty and integrity."
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WO1 Ricardo Eva
SSG Sean Donahue - Though your verbiage is way bolder than mine (my post on this issue is above...) I fully agree with you!!!! KUDOS!
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Sgt Greg Nowark
Has "just asking for a friend" EVER worked, even if true? (January 6, 2021, subversive for attending the rally - not me, but a friend).
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SGT Mustafa Stokely
I think the individual is still at the MEPS stage of enlistment, and if I have understood him correctly, he is awaiting a medical waiver of sorts. What is the worst that can happen? They'll simply deny him enlistment and move-on.
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I am noticing a lot of criticism. People are pretty ugly. I want to know how many of you on here, ever told everyone the truth or didn't stretch it a little bit just so they wouldn't get in trouble. If you say you never had, I am the first one calling you a liar. Take it easy on the kid. Do you think they intentionally lied to get away with something
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SFC Melvin Brandenburg literally everyone lies for different reasons he lied to make a better life for himself and he did man up by enlisting
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PV2 Robert H.
SSG Lawrence Crow Agreed SSG. It is less a matter of moral integrity (though that is a factor) and more of a potential safety factor. Best case scenario; he never gets found out, survives training, and survives deployment. All the while risking not just the mission, but also his unit. And has to live with that fact his entire life.
Worst case scenario; he somehow survives training ends up in the field in a combat zone, keels over and dies when he hits the ground his weapon goes off, wounding one of the others in his unit.. and alerting the enemy to their position, now they're 1 man down and 1 man wounded, awaiting medivac, and engaged in a firefight.. this is why the honesty is key. Because when this young man is taken back and an autopsy is preformed, and they then discover his condition, he will be labeled the biggest blue falcon, and the rest of the unit's wounds and/or deaths.. their blood.. is on his hands. The pain and suffering the families will deal with, the potential children that will grow up without a father.
It goes deeper than just me or you, and our opinions.
And I also hope this young man opens up and accepts the consequences now. Before the potential consequences occur down the road.
Worst case scenario; he somehow survives training ends up in the field in a combat zone, keels over and dies when he hits the ground his weapon goes off, wounding one of the others in his unit.. and alerting the enemy to their position, now they're 1 man down and 1 man wounded, awaiting medivac, and engaged in a firefight.. this is why the honesty is key. Because when this young man is taken back and an autopsy is preformed, and they then discover his condition, he will be labeled the biggest blue falcon, and the rest of the unit's wounds and/or deaths.. their blood.. is on his hands. The pain and suffering the families will deal with, the potential children that will grow up without a father.
It goes deeper than just me or you, and our opinions.
And I also hope this young man opens up and accepts the consequences now. Before the potential consequences occur down the road.
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PFC Angela Van Horn
Full send or no send IMHO, Sarnt. Kid should've either committed to the lie, or not attempted it to begin with
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SFC Jeff Duncan
So when has it started to be wrong to hold someone accountable MSG, he is being called out on his written word “ I lied at MEPS” if he wasn’t trying to get away with something then why did he lie?!!
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No they won’t. Also all these people acting like saints are not. If you want to serve serve
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PO2 Michael Henry I think he is an adult that has consulted his own primary care provider
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PO1 James McWilliams so, then it will be service connected. He consulted his own doctor
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PO1 James McWilliams wah. I am being real and telling the truth. Now, if you are saying the will do this big investigation you are lying
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Everyone (a good bit of people) lied at MEPS. Whether asthma, bones, illnesses, or cannabis usage. They ask whether you’ve ever been seen by a doctor. Of course you have been, but (and I’m in the medical branch) if we don’t know where to look and you don’t tell us you’ve been seen, we aren’t going to look everywhere for medical records.
Go get seen by the doctor. If you’re a go, then good, if not, then you may have to choose a different job in the Army or you can help the Army in the civilian sector.
I will am not condoning you lie or withhold information from your doctor, I’m just stating: what momma doesn’t know doesn’t hurt.
Go get seen by the doctor. If you’re a go, then good, if not, then you may have to choose a different job in the Army or you can help the Army in the civilian sector.
I will am not condoning you lie or withhold information from your doctor, I’m just stating: what momma doesn’t know doesn’t hurt.
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Randy Bowman
Recruiters lie, Meps lie, Va lies... Read an article that Va reps were putting the toughest claims at the bottom of the stack to process the easiest ones because at the time their pay bonuses were quantity based. Sooooo
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SSgt Ryan Sylvester
I can tell you from experience. Growing up, I had no signs of any problems. I played baseball, soccer, was one of the fastest sprinters on the field. During Basic, while not the fastest time in my flight, I was well under time to qualify for Honor Grad. Later on, I couldn't run for anything without physical complications. I kept pushing (and, well, getting pushed) to do better and this eventually found me in the ER. Doctor examining heard a murmur, which led to a stress echo, and discovery of Obstructive Hypertrophic Cardiomyopathy. Less than a year later, I was 4K'd out on an MDQ.
That was without any prior diagnosis. If OP has a prior, and it is still presenting, that is a very compelling reason to reevaluate their career choice, and at the very least, get an accurate diagnosis of what's causing the murmur.
That was without any prior diagnosis. If OP has a prior, and it is still presenting, that is a very compelling reason to reevaluate their career choice, and at the very least, get an accurate diagnosis of what's causing the murmur.
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PO2 Michael Henry he said they caught it in meps and he have to see a heart specialist if he say yes it no harm no foul.... I have seen so many air crew personnel go outside of the millitary healthcare system about problems cause they don't wont a down chit...
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No one actually cares. Never talk about it again especially on a website with a bunch of dudes who suck the sweat off the governments nutsack.
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SPC William Wilson
I agree. Don't let the cat out of the bag and say nothing to anyone about this, especially on here or any other social media sight. Out of sight out of mind.
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Do you realize how many people lie at MEPS? Don't let them scare you with all that integrity bullshit. Over half the people in the military lied at MEPS to get in and are still lying at their current units in some way or another. Does it make it right? Of course not! What you need to ask yourself is this: Will my medical issue possibly cause me to not be able to function properly in a real deal battle or similar situation, and cause harm to befall myself or my brothers & sisters in arms? If it would, then you need to reevaluate.
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SPC Will Thorson
Half the people lied at meps? Lol. Come on man. No need to be over dramatic. I didn't lie. No reason to. If you honestly think meps won't catch specific things you are very wrong. When i went thru, a guy going thru with me hid some damaging stuff. The very last minute, they pulled him into a room. He came out crying. He told me that found out he tried fo commit suicide 3 years ago. Told him to come back in a year without issues and he might get thru. Meps knows. They know a ton. They follow they on kids wanting to get in. Blood tests tell everything. So do medical records that meps ALWAYS get. Their job is to weed out those that can cost the military no matter how small. And they are successful at it. Doesn't mean a kid or 2 doesn't fall thru the cracks, but its a lot rarer than you think.
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SFC Jeff Duncan
I am absolutely disappointed in the lack of integrity I’m hearing from Senior NCO’s. This issue is not did you smoke weed etc, this kid has a potentially serious medical condition that could cost him his life or his fellow soldier their lives. If your fit for training then carry on if not, then your not.
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MSG Brian Berger Well I am 27 and I never do any drugs, let alone Marijuana. I am taking that 1% spot then, MSG.
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When I was in ROTC they said I was so blind I was disqualified. I asked for a waiver, and now I am a retired O-5 JAG. You were told you would grow out of it. Apparently you did, as the doc sounds like he is going to recommend a waiver. Note that some things disqualifying years ago are not today. Technically, you can be charged with a fraudulent enlistment. Actually, if the doc says ok,
I don't see any adverse action. Recruitment is hard these days. People who want to get in and aren't clearly disqualified, are welcome. I'm sure there are hardasses who disagree, but then, they are not the JAG advising the recruiter.
R.L. Farnette LTC USAF (R)
I don't see any adverse action. Recruitment is hard these days. People who want to get in and aren't clearly disqualified, are welcome. I'm sure there are hardasses who disagree, but then, they are not the JAG advising the recruiter.
R.L. Farnette LTC USAF (R)
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Cpl Brad MarkW
I had to get a waiver because I had "high arches". The MEPS doctor said I would not be able to run the distances the USMC would require me to run without injury. I asked how far does the USMC need me to run? I am a long distance and track runner now and consider a half marathon a medium workout.
I got the waiver and served my enlistment, getting out as a CPL. Never had one foot issue. My back? Well, that's another issue. But no foot issues.
I got the waiver and served my enlistment, getting out as a CPL. Never had one foot issue. My back? Well, that's another issue. But no foot issues.
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One of the most important part of being a Service Member is having integrity. If your brothers and sisters in arms can’t trust you to be honest about yourself, they’ll find it hard to trust you when it counts the most. If serving is what you really want to do, then start your process off with honesty and integrity. What’s meant for you, will be for you....Good Luck to you.
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SFC (Join to see) I agree. Integrity is the most important trait in the military and civilian worlds.
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Ahhh so you never drank underage? Drive after one too many? Been late to PT? Give us all a break
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Horse shit men having been lying to get into the service and Combat Since 1775 myself included. It’s what MEN do and that will never change we are Warriors and have a Desire/Calling to fight. No man has ever been punished for wanting to fight just Ask Audie Murphy he lied
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