Posted on Aug 10, 2014
If a fellow Servicemember endorses you here on RP, is it expected to receive a endorsment back?
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Given that this community is so diverse and that there are very few that I have personally met, I tend to agree with MAJ Robert (Bob) Petrarca in that I tend to endorse those who I feel have provided major contributions to the RP community. I don't expect an endorsement in return, nor do I feel obligated to endorse someone just because they endorse me.
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I don't think so. I'm sure it's different for everyone but just because I read a profile and believe that a persons particular skill should be endorsed doesn't lead me to believe they should respond in-kind.
Besides, the whole endorsement aspect of online profiles from LI to RP is rather subjective really, unless of course you know the person first-hand.
Besides, the whole endorsement aspect of online profiles from LI to RP is rather subjective really, unless of course you know the person first-hand.
Unlike the endorsement process on LinkedIn, where I get some from people who don't know me and have never even interacted with me, on RallyPoint, it seems we tend to endorse after some level of virtual interaction - which is understandable.
So, SGT Steven Eugene Kuhn MBA, I agree with MAJ Robert (Bob) Petrarca, SPC Randy Torgerson, MSG Carl Cunningham, SFC (Join to see), MSG Wade Huffman, PO2 (Join to see), SGT Jason Scholte, COL (Join to see), SSG John Bacon, 1LT Scott Doyle, CPT Richard Riley, TSgt Joshua Copeland - no expectation in return.
I do not endorse on LinkedIn - ever; however, I have on RallyPoint Team, and will continue to do so.
So, SGT Steven Eugene Kuhn MBA, I agree with MAJ Robert (Bob) Petrarca, SPC Randy Torgerson, MSG Carl Cunningham, SFC (Join to see), MSG Wade Huffman, PO2 (Join to see), SGT Jason Scholte, COL (Join to see), SSG John Bacon, 1LT Scott Doyle, CPT Richard Riley, TSgt Joshua Copeland - no expectation in return.
I do not endorse on LinkedIn - ever; however, I have on RallyPoint Team, and will continue to do so.
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LTC Jason Strickland
1LT Scott Doyle, I don't endorse on LinkedIn because I sometimes have connections that I have absolutely no interaction with, yet I get endorsed for things like DoD (meaningless) and Security Clearance (even more meaningless). At least on RP, I have the privilege of recognizing someone I've served with in the past and/or met through this forum.
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TSgt Joshua Copeland
I only endorse those I know personally on LinkedIn for skills I know they actually have.
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SPC Randy Torgerson
Skills are subjective not absolute. You may think someone has done a great job on a project, but someone else may feel they did not do anything special on that same job. To say you give an endorsement only to those you know have a particular skill is fine. Because it is your reason for the endorsement. I may give the same guy an endorsement because my friend gave the person an endorsement. I did it because I know my friend only gives endorsements to deserving people. Does that make my endorsement less valuable? Just have a reason and don't endorse blindly.
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Endorsing another member is uniquely personal. Some only endorse those they have served with and know personally, others endorse based on interactions here, still others are quite selective and a remote few endorse at any interaction.
I tend to think the majority have a threshold that needs to be met prior to sending any endorsement. If you view an endorsement as a personal 'voucher' for that individual, you tend to be very discriminating in who you bestow an endorsement on.
It's a personal choice. I don't think there is any expectation of a reciprocal endorsement, nor should there be. If you believe a person is worthy of your endorsement that is great, to somehow anticipate that you will receive an endorsement in kind is assuming too much.
I tend to think the majority have a threshold that needs to be met prior to sending any endorsement. If you view an endorsement as a personal 'voucher' for that individual, you tend to be very discriminating in who you bestow an endorsement on.
It's a personal choice. I don't think there is any expectation of a reciprocal endorsement, nor should there be. If you believe a person is worthy of your endorsement that is great, to somehow anticipate that you will receive an endorsement in kind is assuming too much.
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I believe that endorsements of people solely based on RP input and discussions is a weak endorsement. No offense to anyone that practices this, but I believe to truly endorse someone in the qualities of character, presence, intellect, leading, developing and achieving (I've selected these 3 attributes and 3 competencies for a reason) and 22 components subset to them, that you have to have served with someone and seen them take action...and not just talk about it on a (very important and professionally developmental) social media site. Call me old fashioned, but if a 55 year old man can pretend to be an 18 year old girl on social media, I'm pretty sure someone can blow a lot of smoke on this or other websites about their resume, qualifications and military history. This thing isn't linked to IPERMS. You have to KNOW someone...seen them LEAD Soldiers...seen them react to stressful conditions and excell. Then and only then should you endorse someone.
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SPC Randy Torgerson
hmm, Here is my 2 cents. I think you should not give an endorsement expecting one back. Its like tips..... as a society we have come to the conclusion that no matter how bad the service you might get is, we feel like we need to tip. Let us remember that tipping is a social grace that the privileged give when someone has gone above the requirement in providing service to you. Such as being pleasant or smiling, or being attentive. When we tip just to tip, you actually create people who stop wanting to go above the requirements.
Likewise, if you don't get a endorsement back from someone you endorced, does that make your endorsement false? Don't do something nice with expectations of getting something in return. Do something nice because you want to. I know I will appreciate you more for that.
Likewise, if you don't get a endorsement back from someone you endorced, does that make your endorsement false? Don't do something nice with expectations of getting something in return. Do something nice because you want to. I know I will appreciate you more for that.
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SGT Richard H.
I think there are two schools of thought on this. I'm only partly stating an opinion here, with the remainder being an observation of practice, with a bit of what I've practiced myself. On the one hand, there is the practice/principle stated above by COL (Join to see) of endorsing based solely on knowing someone in the "in person" sense, which is completely valid.
On the other hand, there is the practice of endorsing someone HERE solely on observed performance HERE. This is, after all, an online community and the military is a big place so "here" may be all the knowledge we ever have of one another. It is my opinion that this is also valid, but it must be kept in mind that these endorsements are from RP, for RP, and based only on RP.
On the other hand, there is the practice of endorsing someone HERE solely on observed performance HERE. This is, after all, an online community and the military is a big place so "here" may be all the knowledge we ever have of one another. It is my opinion that this is also valid, but it must be kept in mind that these endorsements are from RP, for RP, and based only on RP.
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SGT Richard H.
Follow on thought: We aren't writing OER/NCOERs here....the endorsement is simply a way of letting other members know (when they look at a profile) that a given member is well thought of in this community, and by whom in particular. I kind of doubt that anyone is printing these endorsements and attaching them to their resume.
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SPC Randy Torgerson
Endorsements are your personal feelings in the way in which you know this person. An endorsement does not mean you have had dinner with the person. Nor does it mean you have actually done business or anything else necessarily. Perhaps you have spoken on the phone and you liked what and how the person spoke. Perhaps you have never met nor talked to the person but you have seen a photo and you think that the person dresses very professionally. There is nothing wrong with endorsing that person by saying they appear to be a sharply dressed person who appears to be very professional in appearance. It is your perception of the person your endorsing. The bottom line is that you have a reason to endorse no matter how small or big of a reason. Its still your opinion. There are people on RP that I have never met nor had any conversation with, however, having read many comments from many people, I would feel comfortable endorsing many RP members who I thought had good, reasonable, well thought out comments. Those comments tell me a lot about a person.
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I would state that would be akin to expecting someone to say, "I love you too" when you say it to them. MAJ Robert (Bob) Petrarca , I too try to endorse folks on RP who are contributors regardless if they have endorsed me. If they do or have, it is just bonus.
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SGT Steven Eugene Kuhn MBA
Not sure if I would compare love with an endorsement but good point regardless!
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SGT Steven Eugene Kuhn MBA, thanks for posting this topic. I have been wondering the same thing, so the responses here are very helpful to me.
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Well, I'm a veteran, not a servicemember, but I only endorse people I know personally and have served with.
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I'm not sure what the endorsement signifies.
He's a good guy?
He should be promoted?
His information is always correct?
I dated his sister?
He's a good guy?
He should be promoted?
His information is always correct?
I dated his sister?
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SPC Randy Torgerson
Generally an endorsement is for someone you either know or you believe is someone you can trust. If it is about dating, then your saying that person is a nice person to date. Here on RP an endorsement is about work ethics. Since RP's main purpose is for active duty transitions to civilian employment, an endorsement means you recommend this person with what knowledge you have about them. If your on match.com your endorsement will mean something completely different. You have to think about the context in which you will endorse someone. Hopefully that makes sense...
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