Posted on Jun 15, 2019
If a POG, awarded with a CAB (combat action badge), were to transfer to Infantry, would the soldier be authorized to wear the CIB?
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This is where you grab both ears firmly, pull upwards very vigorously, and wait for the pop.
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No the cib is awarded to soldiers in the infantry most who are assigned to an infantry unit in combat
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NO NOT BEING A 11 SERIES AT THE TIME PERIOD OF THE AWARD.
Next question is does he hold A 11 series 2ndary mos for the same award period.
Then mabe he can dubble dip on that one.
I have seen some Medic's from C,Co 710 FSB. Get both A CAB and CMB.
You have to love blanket orders.
Had also seen People get the CMB'S, CAB'S , CIB'S That never left Bagram Air Field.
Because A Suicide Bomber that made it passed the outer gate.
The trully sad thing about this is most of them had no clue that any thing had happed untill the next day.
Next question is does he hold A 11 series 2ndary mos for the same award period.
Then mabe he can dubble dip on that one.
I have seen some Medic's from C,Co 710 FSB. Get both A CAB and CMB.
You have to love blanket orders.
Had also seen People get the CMB'S, CAB'S , CIB'S That never left Bagram Air Field.
Because A Suicide Bomber that made it passed the outer gate.
The trully sad thing about this is most of them had no clue that any thing had happed untill the next day.
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SGT Charles Bartell
SSG Robert Perrotto - No CAB and CMB for some of the Medic's, And the Infantry guys awarded the CIB That never Engaged in combat.
The whole Blanket orders thing.
The whole Blanket orders thing.
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SGT Charles Bartell
SSG Robert Perrotto - If the Medic secondary MOS is 11 Series acting at that time as an 11 Series. Or the other way around it can be done.
My Bitch was about people that did not engage in any combat getting there combat Badges under blanket order's.
Kind of like all senior NCO'S and officers getting at lest a Bronze star for there deployments awards that they DID NOT EARN and the lower enlisted that did earn them not getting them simply because they were not of a higher rank or someone's butt boy.
Being a SSG you had to have seen this first hand at least one time if not more.
My Bitch was about people that did not engage in any combat getting there combat Badges under blanket order's.
Kind of like all senior NCO'S and officers getting at lest a Bronze star for there deployments awards that they DID NOT EARN and the lower enlisted that did earn them not getting them simply because they were not of a higher rank or someone's butt boy.
Being a SSG you had to have seen this first hand at least one time if not more.
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SSG Robert Perrotto
SGT Charles Bartell - There is a WHOLE thread regarding awards - specifically Officers you should check out.
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Just think about the question! The answer is right there! CAB combat Action Badge, CIB Combat INFANTRY badge! You would’ve to be in combat as an Infantry soldier, just because someone shot at you while driving a truck or on guard duty don’t make you Infantry!
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As I understand it, the answer is No. I believe that the soldier must be serving in an Infantry or Special Forces MOS in combat to earn a CIB. That is not retro-active, so you cannot convert a CAB to a CIB if you become an infantry soldier.
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MAJ Hugh Blanchard
However, nowadays, if a soldier moves into an Infantry or Special Forces MOS, I doubt it will be very long before they get the chance to earn a CIB in their new MOS. We still have a lot of our great people deploying down-range.
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Wait as a marine there is one award a Combat Action ribbon. It doesn't matter what your MOS or occupational specialty are what your job is every Marine is a Rifleman and if you are attacked and defend your position and someone takes it into their purview to write an award for the unit or individuals then they received the award which is called a car for Combat Action ribbon. I don't know what the hell they are me is thinking having multiple awards for different job occupations but I think that is ridiculous. We are all in the military and if an admin unit sitting on a fob in the middle of Afghanistan or Iraq got attacked and those service members regardless of job description defended themselves and/or their position, killed or repelled the enemy they deserve the same award as a combat unit or infantry men headed out on Direct assault! Other members often think the Marine Corps dumb God bless them for keeping it simple stupid. K.I.S.S.
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SSG Harry Tipton
Major.. I believe they developed the CAB primarily for those individuals you mention, those defending the fob you cited.. The CIB and Blue Rope were designed for the 11B and 11C Combat troops..jmo
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MSG Felipe De Leon Brown
My take on the issue is somebody decided to create an award for individuals who are not Army Infantry, Special Forces or Medical Corpsmen assigned to said units so that everyone else in a combat zone could acquire a "combat" badge. Unlike the Corps, not everyone is Infantry. I'm just happy I survived and can laugh at some of the nonsense I see now. You're right Major...KISS. Stay safe.
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Sgt Dan Baughman
When i was in we didnt worry about stupid crap like this. We were just happy to get home. But thats been many years ago. Semper Fi.
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Then he gets the Bayonet badge not the CIB...it's only FAIR Cav gets a nifty hat after all(MANY thanks to the Vietnam pilots who created the tradition) I recall there was an effort to make a Cav version ,but WE all agree that ain't right.
THAT HAVING been said ,Cav DOES have many colored hat cords they used to use ,to honor those in a Cav unit that aren't scouts.I'm cool with all this..
THAT HAVING been said ,Cav DOES have many colored hat cords they used to use ,to honor those in a Cav unit that aren't scouts.I'm cool with all this..
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SPC Franklin McKown
OH yeah...I heard that one A LOT...I AM thankful the dang PILOTS got us all a hat however.I will ALWAYS say the guys in Vietnam taught us HOW we MUST do it against a brutal enemy...weren't SUPPOSED to take ears BUT HEY! the fuckers started it by thinking we were FRENCH and tried to scare us by mutilating Joe...didn't scare us...it did something else.
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SFC Lyle Green
SPC Franklin McKown - Funny you should say that about "ears", brought back memory, assigned to a unit of the 3rd Brdg. 1st. ID was trying to get body counts after big Boomer (B52) strikes was all but impossible. The CO's standing rule was to collect left ears to verify a kill, when those 5k lb.ers were dropped most of the unfortunate souls on the receiving end were just vaporized. Strangely enough, the ears attached to a hunk of meat was all that remained in most cases. Recon of the areas with a sack of ears took a while to adapt to.
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SPC Franklin McKown
SFC GREEN: I got one from Desert Storm,myself.When we were clearing Saudi,a
guy assigned to clearing us looked REAL worn out.It seems some troops picked up the bright orange bomblets from MLRS rockets,in their gear, I heard a mechanic had an enemy head in his tool box...THAT shit is off by ANY measure. I was a 19D , and I read all I could about patrolling before I had joined.
guy assigned to clearing us looked REAL worn out.It seems some troops picked up the bright orange bomblets from MLRS rockets,in their gear, I heard a mechanic had an enemy head in his tool box...THAT shit is off by ANY measure. I was a 19D , and I read all I could about patrolling before I had joined.
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SFC Lyle Green
SPC Franklin McKown - So much or so many of the atrocities we as U.S soldiers comminated in VN continue to haunt us to this day. We were just 19-20+ year old "kids" (who became men in war). Sent to a country most had never hear of (except of the War), knew only what the military had ground into us of the so-called enemy. Sub-human savage terrorists who slaughtered women, children or any who opposed them, no desire of life, no morals, just the terrible, awful, things that were a bunch of commie threats to the world. This image was often supported by their actions we witnessed, hearing fellow soldiers scream as they were castrated and left to suffer and die, finding our comrade's heads on "a pig pole", mascaraed children, women, babies piled up like cord wood. The only driving force that was constantly supported by the "brass" was to get revenge, eye for an eye. Blinded by our youth and immaturity of wisdom and knowledge, so we, (US) had to vent the rage, pain and hate the only way we all knew. All the lies we were feed of this "savage enemy" and the mission to irradiate these inferior "animals" by the powers that be, leadership, was so ingrained that it consumed our motives and ambitions. More than my opinion in these later years of one thing I can affirm, There is no hell on this earth then and hidden in our military and civilian men today, that cannot be even comprehended in one's wildest imagination of today. The total savagery, ruthless barbarianism, endurance, perseverance, un-equaled fighting ability of The American Fighting Men. But the consequences of such unbridled, promoted actions that were considered "so heroic" that occurred those many years ago, was later hell to pay for us all. The curse of age, truth of knowledge brought wisdom and with it the agony and suffering of what was done, the lies that we ingested by the Government and Military we so proudly served and obeyed without question or reason. Regardless of any or all negative opinions, denouements, ridicule, condemnations, or criticisms of Viet Nam Veterans, the worst agony is the memory of those actions that appear everyday. Sorry for the rant.
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