Posted on May 4, 2014
If you are non deployable, you shouldn't be able to get promoted. What do you think?
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I think being non deployable is the worst thing in the Army. Nothing worst than watching your Soldiers board the plane to deploy and you are in the rear.
I used to work for a SFC that was non deployable and couldn't even wear her vest lol. I was like seriously, why are you even here? Why are you training us on anything and will not be there when it matters the most?
In my eyes if you are non deployable i don't see why the Army doesn't start a chapter packet on the SM or Leader and send them to the house.
There is another way for the Army to downsize right there.
I think you shouldn't be able to get promoted either. Deploying is the biggest and main part of the being a Soldier. Going to war when needed. If you can't go to war or the freaking field for a field problem then why should you be promoted?
I used to work for a SFC that was non deployable and couldn't even wear her vest lol. I was like seriously, why are you even here? Why are you training us on anything and will not be there when it matters the most?
In my eyes if you are non deployable i don't see why the Army doesn't start a chapter packet on the SM or Leader and send them to the house.
There is another way for the Army to downsize right there.
I think you shouldn't be able to get promoted either. Deploying is the biggest and main part of the being a Soldier. Going to war when needed. If you can't go to war or the freaking field for a field problem then why should you be promoted?
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Disagree. My sons non deployable right now, on profile post an Afghanastan tour for respitory problems. He's his units Deployment Manager, he can pass the Army PT test easily , and he's waiting on word about orders for the 160th SOAR. He's going to fight his profile. He's not skating, he got sick in Afghanistan, it's takes a few years to rebound and he's moving on not out. He's been promoted twice post Afghanastan, he's proven himself in this time period. Not everyone needs to carry a rifle to be productive.
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One of the side effects of this opinion is you would be kicking outback lot of people.
* Transgender undergoing their change procedure as they would be nondeployabke during pregnancy, change and post-op treatment. (Yes I know Trump issued a ban but we have yet to see if it will stand).
* Pregnant Soldiers, a friend had a Signal Company where he averaged ~25% non-Denominal at any given time.
* Individuals injured in the line of duty but could still teach necessary skills. Should we shift all the non-Deployables to DIs? Or how about Recruiters, sort of like the Sergeant mentioned in Heinlein's book.
Could go on and on, but a blanket opinion does not work for a blanket policy.
* Transgender undergoing their change procedure as they would be nondeployabke during pregnancy, change and post-op treatment. (Yes I know Trump issued a ban but we have yet to see if it will stand).
* Pregnant Soldiers, a friend had a Signal Company where he averaged ~25% non-Denominal at any given time.
* Individuals injured in the line of duty but could still teach necessary skills. Should we shift all the non-Deployables to DIs? Or how about Recruiters, sort of like the Sergeant mentioned in Heinlein's book.
Could go on and on, but a blanket opinion does not work for a blanket policy.
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Soldiers who are awarded the MoH are non-deployable by law. Should we get rid of them? Soldiers who are the sole surviving child in a family are non-deployable. Should we get rid of them?
Soldiers who have been badly wounded may be non-deployable after recovery. Should we get rid of them? There are a ton of valid reasons a soldier may be non-deployable. They can still serve stateside supporting in training, administration, or logistics. Soldiers who actively avoid deploying may be good candidates for separation, but not people who have a valid disability. Sure glad SFC Demond Thomas doesn't get to make that call. Bet if he was non-deployable for any reason, he'd fight to be allowed to continue to serve.
Soldiers who have been badly wounded may be non-deployable after recovery. Should we get rid of them? There are a ton of valid reasons a soldier may be non-deployable. They can still serve stateside supporting in training, administration, or logistics. Soldiers who actively avoid deploying may be good candidates for separation, but not people who have a valid disability. Sure glad SFC Demond Thomas doesn't get to make that call. Bet if he was non-deployable for any reason, he'd fight to be allowed to continue to serve.
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Excuse me for the question, but I am an elderly veteran of Viet Nam who tries to stay up on what the modern Army does and how it does it. What are the reasons for being nondeployable? Are they medical, because of a specific MOS, conscientious objector, or what? Thanks for your info.
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Not sure if the big picture is being seen. Some can make themselves non-deployable just to get out. That is why we sign contracts. At any given time amyone can be in that position.
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When I was in my unit did that. It took a while but they did make an attempt
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Depends on the reason for being listed as non-deployable. I was listed as non-deployable after havng two ruptured discs replaced with synthetics; managed to BS my way through the next SRP and deploy again anyway; so I dont have a lot of sympathy for those labelled as "non-deployable". Hpwever, that being said, to restrict all non-deployables from promotion would screwour bretheren that are forced to medically retire due to injuries sustained in a deployment. Many people don't realize this, but if you are promotable during the medical retirement process you are retired at the higher rank.
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