Posted on Aug 6, 2018
Is it embarrassing to go to BSEP class as a E7 and try to raise your GT score with a bunch of privates just to go warrant?
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I think it may be too late to do BSEP as an E7
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Man go for it its embarassing not to go if anything ypur are setting a good example for soldiers to better them self . I took it August 2017 got my GT from 92 to 131 i recomend the Fort Irwin course and my wife also got 131 since i went wore soldiers had been motivated to go and with good results. Dont be embarrased to set the exanple for upcoming leaders even if it takes going back to basics .
It ignorance if you don’t take this opportunity to improve yourself as a senior NCO. You are a mentor to other therefore is the right thing to keep improving your career. Airborne
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When does self improvement stop? Does the leadership within the chain and over years failed the Soldier? We have to take a better approach at things and not just what we see.
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I’d be interested in why/how you came up with the thought of it being too late. “Know yourself and seek self improvement”....if this is true (which it is), at what point is it too late to better yourself when making yourself better usually has a direct and immediate impact on your Soldiers who might think it’s too late for themselves, but see a beacon of hope from you?
What was your decision process to come to this conclusion?
What was your decision process to come to this conclusion?
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No but you can sign up at the local community college and take some basic courses. Spend the $35.00 for the ASVAB book that gets you tests so you can practice till you do better, or go to the base library and sign the same book out for free, and lastly many communities offer adult education courses, that are not college courses, so you could improve that way.
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Never be embarrassed about trying to better yourself for any reason. I went in 2016 as a SSG, it was terrible. I literally couldn't remember how to do long division, and had to ask the instructor for one on one time so I could get it down again. Do what you need to do to get your score up, and meet the goals that you set. I went in just trying to get over 110 from a 101 and ended up with a 125 on GT.
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No, I actually used it prior to retiring to prep for College classes. Saved me money instead of paying for prep classes the college gave.
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There are only two ways that thiss could be embarrassing for him or her: either they are doing it before allowing their subordinates to better themselves, or they are too prideful to do it and as a result cannot reclassify or do other developmental opportunities that require a certain score.
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You she be proud of your decision and furthermore share with your Sokdier what you have learned. Take the time to raise your GT as early as possible, you never know when it will come into play. Thank you for your service and congrats.
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Do what you can to better yourself. Heck at 65 I'm considering college again.
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Your thought process is all wrong. I thought the same thing when I went. Swallow your pride and put whats most important in front of you. The soldiers will actually eespect you more for wanting to improve yourself, even if you think it's too late in the game to improve your score.
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Try being verbally berated AS a warrant officer for refusing to go to BSEP..... being told your high GT score, Masters degree, two Bachelor's degrees, and six associate degrees did not matter.
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One should never be embarrassed to increase knowledge. Especially for such a lofty goal.
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I am about to do the same! Did the course help you succeed in raising your score?
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Education is nothing to be embarrassed about. You are trying to improve yourself, not your class mates. It's not competition, it's your education and and advancement. Go for it, you will be glad you did.
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Today's downsized military is very competitive and every Service Member should ensure that they continue to grow professionally, which also means academically. A person should never be embarrassed for bettering themselves. If that is an issue there are many alternatives especially on the Web to help raise one's GT scores. But by attending class, and being a serious student, think of the real message that you are sending to those 'Privates'. Hopefully they get that message and also take the classes serious. Back in the 80's we used to send Soldier's to BSEP, and many just used it as a means of getting out of work. Hopefully the times have changed.
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Simple answer, no, improving oneself is good at any time in life or career!
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If it is, you better take a hard look at yourself. Something is lacking confidence or character wise.
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In addition to my earlier comment SSG Johnson. GO FOR IT!!!! You will never regret becoming a Warrant Officer. Being a Warrant was the impitus for me serving more than 30 years. U loved every minute of it.
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I'm not in the Army (obviously) and I don't know the requirements of the course but I do have a question. How bad do you want it? If you want to be a Mustang and you need to do some work to make sure you have the best chance of getting accepted to the illustrious Mustang ranks then GET IT DONE! Don't ever assume the answer is no without asking the question. Make them tell you no. Several times. And when you get in the course, do the work, put in the time, and excel because that is what Mustangs do.
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They're just Privates. Not even real Soldiers yet. Their opinions are meaningless. They know nothing of you or the Army. You do you.
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I reclassified from 180A to 351M a few years back. When I got to Ft. Huachuca, I was faced with the prospect of having to take the entire 35M AIT in order to qualify in the new MOS. That’s 22 weeks in a class of E3s and E4s. At the time I was a 50 year old CW3. When I balked at the idea, a very wise WO reminded me that if I was unwilling to do subsume my ego and do what I need to master my chosen profession, perhaps I should not be a WO. If your embarrassment is an obstacle to becoming the best you can be, you mind is kicking your ass and it’s time to retire.
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Any tools available to prepare you for any of the steps ahead in your career should be taken advantage of. Just think of how many vets/retirees from the mid 20s and older are in English 101 with 18 year olds.
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If you haven’t already, eventually you will have to tell one of your troops to take his ass down to BSEP or, one of your troops will ask about going to BSEP. Either way, you can show them the ropes because you’ve been there.
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No it’s not and nothing wrong with trying to improve and trying to set an example for your soldiers to follow Hooah
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Why would it be. You would send a Soldier if the needed a higher score for reclassification wouldn’t you.
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Take advantage of this educational opportunity because it can only help You in the long run.
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