Posted on Jun 1, 2017
Is it legal for PFC to skip SPC and be promoted to CPL without P status (no promotion board experience)?
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SGT (Join to see) I have never done this, but from SPC to CPL is a lateral appointment and does not require a board. However, IMHO if you are wearing CPL you should be in a leadership position and acting as a SGT.
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LTC Stephen C.
LTC (Join to see), I've been out for sometime, but I thought much of this would be driven by the MTO&E of an organization. If the PFC is advanced into a position that called for a corporal and not a specialist, wouldn't the soldier simply become a corporal? SGT (Join to see)
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LTC Stephen C. - Sir, I believe it still requires paperwork signed by the CDR to state that they are a CPL.
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LTC Stephen C.
Understood, LTC (Join to see). I would assume that orders would be cut, but simply state corporal and not specialist. My point is that if the MTO&E calls for a corporal and not a specialist, the PFC would simply be advanced to corporal, correct?
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LTC (Join to see)
LTC Stephen C. - that is a great question, Sir. I know I have put PFCs in SPC positions and SGT in SSG, but I never had a CPL position on my UMR so I never ran into that.
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It is entirely possible to go from PFC straight to CPL. Really it just depends on the soldier, his or her proven performance, his senior leaders, and if they need an NCO
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One is promoted to the rank of Specialist, it can be changed to Corporal, (they are both E-4), Commanding Officer is the Approving Authority (DA Form 4187). While not a hard or fast rule, in Combat Arms MOS's, often only promotable SPC/E4's were laterally promoted to Corporal.
Army Regulation 600–8–19 Enlisted Promotions and Reductions 18 December 2015
Army Regulation 600–8–19 Enlisted Promotions and Reductions 18 December 2015
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Do Soldiers Get Promoted to Corporal or Specialist First?
Achieving the rank of corporal implies that you have proven yourself a junior leader. The opportunities to achieve the corporal rank are limited, but possible. The unit must have the need for a ...
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Policies change over time. Back in the day, I was and E-2 with an instant promotion to E-4. The policy then was if you graduated first in your class out of A School, instant E-4. The Catch-22 was the effective date was held in limbo to make sure you could do your 90 days in the scullery underway and then you were pinned and got back pay to the effective date. Trashed a couple sets of dungarees but making E-4 a year and a half early was nice. Still had to do all the E-4/5 technical courses to strike for E-5.
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Very interesting. I always wanted to promote a Soldier to Corporal but was never authorized one as a company or battalion commander. I look forward to seeing my son attain this grade, as I never got to be one in my early career. I seem to recall, when I was an enlisted Sailor, E3 personnel occasionally being double promoted to E5, on spot, by an O6 Captain.
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I can tell you that it is legal. I was one who was promoted to CPL from PFC, however my BN was over strength for CPL at the time. I was a CPL for about a month and then told that i would become a SPC. But since the promotion to CPL was approved at the Department of the Army (DA) level they had to revert me back to CPL. I was also told that if i was to PCS at that time, i would do so as a CPL. The only way i go back to being a SPC is if my chain of command requested that i be reverted back with the final approval coming from DA.
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