Posted on Jun 1, 2017
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LTC Operations Officer (Opso)
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SGT (Join to see) I have never done this, but from SPC to CPL is a lateral appointment and does not require a board. However, IMHO if you are wearing CPL you should be in a leadership position and acting as a SGT.
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LTC Stephen C.
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LTC (Join to see), I've been out for sometime, but I thought much of this would be driven by the MTO&E of an organization. If the PFC is advanced into a position that called for a corporal and not a specialist, wouldn't the soldier simply become a corporal? SGT (Join to see)
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LTC Stephen C. - Sir, I believe it still requires paperwork signed by the CDR to state that they are a CPL.
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LTC Stephen C.
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Understood, LTC (Join to see). I would assume that orders would be cut, but simply state corporal and not specialist. My point is that if the MTO&E calls for a corporal and not a specialist, the PFC would simply be advanced to corporal, correct?
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LTC Stephen C. - that is a great question, Sir. I know I have put PFCs in SPC positions and SGT in SSG, but I never had a CPL position on my UMR so I never ran into that.
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SGT Joseph Gunderson
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It is entirely possible to go from PFC straight to CPL. Really it just depends on the soldier, his or her proven performance, his senior leaders, and if they need an NCO
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SSG Production Controller
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Yes, it's called being promoted to E4. Both SPC and CPL are E4s.
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Is it legal for PFC to skip SPC and be promoted to CPL without P status (no promotion board experience)?
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One is promoted to the rank of Specialist, it can be changed to Corporal, (they are both E-4), Commanding Officer is the Approving Authority (DA Form 4187). While not a hard or fast rule, in Combat Arms MOS's, often only promotable SPC/E4's were laterally promoted to Corporal.
Army Regulation 600–8–19 Enlisted Promotions and Reductions 18 December 2015
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This answers my question. Thank you.
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COL Charles Williams
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Yes
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CAPT Kevin B.
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Policies change over time. Back in the day, I was and E-2 with an instant promotion to E-4. The policy then was if you graduated first in your class out of A School, instant E-4. The Catch-22 was the effective date was held in limbo to make sure you could do your 90 days in the scullery underway and then you were pinned and got back pay to the effective date. Trashed a couple sets of dungarees but making E-4 a year and a half early was nice. Still had to do all the E-4/5 technical courses to strike for E-5.
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SFC Cannon Crew Member
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It is you command team only has to do a 4187 to pin that SM CPL but they would have had to put in a promotion to SPC and a 4187 at the same time so they just pinned the SM CPL. If it was from DA then if the SM leaves that unit and still not promoted they would then be a SPC again
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If it's from day then they are a cpl were Weber they go they also get e5 pay
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Very interesting. I always wanted to promote a Soldier to Corporal but was never authorized one as a company or battalion commander. I look forward to seeing my son attain this grade, as I never got to be one in my early career. I seem to recall, when I was an enlisted Sailor, E3 personnel occasionally being double promoted to E5, on spot, by an O6 Captain.
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SFC Francisco Rosario
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I can tell you that it is legal. I was one who was promoted to CPL from PFC, however my BN was over strength for CPL at the time. I was a CPL for about a month and then told that i would become a SPC. But since the promotion to CPL was approved at the Department of the Army (DA) level they had to revert me back to CPL. I was also told that if i was to PCS at that time, i would do so as a CPL. The only way i go back to being a SPC is if my chain of command requested that i be reverted back with the final approval coming from DA.
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