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From what I've read it is fine, but to all of you out there, especially those in command positions, what are your thoughts?
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What does having tattoos have to do with how effective a Warrant Officer I am? If you notice, none of my ink falls below my ASU cuff nor do they fall above my neckline. My command loves the job I am doing, the effect I have on Soldiers and Leaders. I am in a Bachelor's program for Space Studies. My Leaders are urged to take college. I believe that we have more pressing issues such as Soldier/Leader standards and discipline issues, wasted funds throughout our government where they could be used elsewhere, and the promoting of quality Soldiers/Leaders not quantity. But what do I know, I am only a CW2.
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SGM Erik Marquez
CW2 (Join to see) while I agree with your position, you hit the reason tattoos are a concern dead on "I am only a CW2."
Retired SGM's, Active CW2's and a couple of million other service members as well do not make these decisions. And its those few who do Sm wanting to get or add ink need to consider in the decision. As well as..... looking in a magic 8 ball and seeing what the next group in those decision making positions might think about tattoos, because as stated earlier, the SM thinking about ink needs to not just consider the regs and attitudes about ink today...but what will it be tomorrow, and 10 years down the road as there near there 10, 15, 17 year mark only to be told, sorry that ink is no longer acceptable, have it removed in 90 days or be separated.. Would that be "fair?" nope, but don't every thing its not possible.
Retired SGM's, Active CW2's and a couple of million other service members as well do not make these decisions. And its those few who do Sm wanting to get or add ink need to consider in the decision. As well as..... looking in a magic 8 ball and seeing what the next group in those decision making positions might think about tattoos, because as stated earlier, the SM thinking about ink needs to not just consider the regs and attitudes about ink today...but what will it be tomorrow, and 10 years down the road as there near there 10, 15, 17 year mark only to be told, sorry that ink is no longer acceptable, have it removed in 90 days or be separated.. Would that be "fair?" nope, but don't every thing its not possible.
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I'm not sure I fully understand what you are asking. AR 670-1 applies to all, no matter rank ,in terms of the tattoo portion. Are you asking is it against an unwritten rule or taboo? Either way it's your choice what to do with your body as long as in compliance. It cannot hinder any career progression if that's your worry. No board has a picture of you outside of your ASU's. There is nothing in the file with an asterisk denoting SM has a tattoo. But I would say if it's a worry to you that you feel the need to ask on here, a permanent decision like that might not be best for you right now, just my opinion.
SGM Erik Marquez
CW2 C.J. Scheurenbrand "Are you asking is it against an unwritten rule or taboo? Either way it's your choice what to do with your body as long as in compliance. It cannot hinder any career progression if that's your worry."
Chief... I get your position, but your ignoring the human factor. Is it the board that writes the officer evaluations? Is it a board that looks for and chooses an officer at the unit level for a assignment, duty, tasking, school that would, if given be career enhancing, or denied because that officer choosing believes tattoos are unprofessional?
Personally Id say that would be an ignorant choice, choose the best warrant for the task and ink has no place in the decision, but that human with personal believes, biases and authority to make the decision.....might care
Chief... I get your position, but your ignoring the human factor. Is it the board that writes the officer evaluations? Is it a board that looks for and chooses an officer at the unit level for a assignment, duty, tasking, school that would, if given be career enhancing, or denied because that officer choosing believes tattoos are unprofessional?
Personally Id say that would be an ignorant choice, choose the best warrant for the task and ink has no place in the decision, but that human with personal believes, biases and authority to make the decision.....might care
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SGT Daniel Rocco Ames
I have waivers in my file for tattoos from when I enlisted in 2005. One fell below my wrist bone. I wasn't a Warrant, only enlisted. I doubt a promotion board would be looking at my enlistment packet anyway.
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Your concern with getting a tattoo might be....what is allowed today under the regs, may be forbidden tomorrow. And while you may get grandfathered at a later date, there is no guarantee.
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Sgt Jamie Grippin
and the civilian world can be even more forgiving. You will never know why you didn't hear back from an interview. They just don't call back.
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CW2 Stephen Pate I totally agree with the tattoos, as long as they are in the right places. I've had them while I Commanded at the Brigade Level twice and got one from my deployment. Since I've retired I've added some below the elbow. I had them where they couldn't be seen in any of my uniforms, but they could be after hours. Go for it Mr. Pate!
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COL Mikel J. Burroughs
CW2 Herschel Reeves - Nope Full Bird - just showing my support for Warrants and tattoos!
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I can't speak to the feeling in the Army today, but I agree with the comparison with the mustache bias that was definitely there in the 70s and 80s. While clearly authorized by reg, it was looked on very negatively by senior officers if an officer had a mustache. There was a joke that the first screening promotion boards did was look at the photo and put all those with mustaches in the NO pile. So even officers with mustaches shaved them for their official photos. One CG (I. Think he was at Ft Hood) told his officers that he considered it an i tegrity violation if an officer had a mustache at Hood but not on their official file. It sounds ridiculous, but the taboo was that strong against officers having mustache, even though clearly authorized by reg.
I don't know if tattoos are treated the same way if they aren't seen while in uniform. But I would just suggest that it won't matter what the reg says. A bias can exist in spite of the regs. And maybe the WO community is different. But officer boards promote people in their own image.
I don't know if tattoos are treated the same way if they aren't seen while in uniform. But I would just suggest that it won't matter what the reg says. A bias can exist in spite of the regs. And maybe the WO community is different. But officer boards promote people in their own image.
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SFC Jimmy Williams
Not just officers. Senior nco's would shave a mustache for the official DA photo.
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Don't ask me... I don't understand why ANY human would get a tattoo. I tattoo goats to identify them and their bloodlines for the American Dairy Goat Association registry.
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Maj John Bell
MAJ Mark Anderson - I don't condemn the tattooed, I just don't get it. I bet you would remember those pagan warrior ancestors, tattooed or not.
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LTC Stephen C.
Maj John Bell, for some reason RP brought this discussion thread back to me. I’m glad it happened, because now I can tell you that your comments are pretty damn funny!
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Maj John Bell
LTC Stephen C. - My Dad always told me if I can't be good looking, smart or wealthy; funny is all I've got left.
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CW2 Stephen Pate Wait until COL Mikel J. Burroughs reads you post!
Be discreet, follow a conservative policy; policies change and squeeze where it hurts!
Be discreet, follow a conservative policy; policies change and squeeze where it hurts!
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COL Mikel J. Burroughs
CSM Charles Hayden Passed 7/29/2025 Thanks for bringing this post to my attention. I todl Mr. Pate to "go for it!"
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MSgt Paul Connors - jealous? Nope. It’s just that that cowboy hats with tassels are more appropriate attire for strippers who pay 31% interest on a 7 year old Mustangs, not soldiers.
Cav is only cool in the Cav world. No one else thinks so. It’s like being the smartest kid in special ed. You’re the sh*t in your own little bubble, but to the rest of the world, we’re just happy you know how to strap on your Velcro shoes by yourself.
Cav is only cool in the Cav world. No one else thinks so. It’s like being the smartest kid in special ed. You’re the sh*t in your own little bubble, but to the rest of the world, we’re just happy you know how to strap on your Velcro shoes by yourself.
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SGT (Join to see) To be fair, I see a lot of my fellow privates paying 31% interest on Cameros.
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SPC (Join to see) - right on. There’s no feeling that compares to driving around in a bitchin’ IROC.
That said, Cowboy hats are stupid. They don’t good, they don’t look professional and they dont make a soldier special. Instead of the Marlboro Man, Cav hats make the Cav folks look like Jim Carrey in Dumb and Dumber. (See attached photo)
That said, Cowboy hats are stupid. They don’t good, they don’t look professional and they dont make a soldier special. Instead of the Marlboro Man, Cav hats make the Cav folks look like Jim Carrey in Dumb and Dumber. (See attached photo)
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Ink on Officers is like Mustaches on Officers.
I've never seen anything in any reg that expressly forbids either of them... but it's also rare as hell to see an O with either of them. It's one of the "isms" that don't seem to be done, like a (sub)cultural paux pas.
If you're going to get one, make sure it won't be seen in any working uniform (including PT gear) or any official photo. Unfortunately, books are judged by their covers.
I've never seen anything in any reg that expressly forbids either of them... but it's also rare as hell to see an O with either of them. It's one of the "isms" that don't seem to be done, like a (sub)cultural paux pas.
If you're going to get one, make sure it won't be seen in any working uniform (including PT gear) or any official photo. Unfortunately, books are judged by their covers.
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CW2 Stephen Pate, I never wanted one whether I was enlisted or commissioned, so I don't think I would have wanted one had I been a warrant officer. Tattoos are much in vogue now, but just not for me.
BTW, Maj John Bell, this was my response, way back when!
BTW, Maj John Bell, this was my response, way back when!
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