Posted on Mar 17, 2016
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I've seen a new E-5 in my unit with the deployment OCP (the shoulders are Velcro pockets like the ACU not zippers, faintly faded, with a fuller only jacket zipper) without a deployment patch, or skill badges I.E CIB, AAS, Etc. he approached me for work and as we were talking he brought up how things worked at his last unit, and I asked him where he was deployed to and he said he wasn't (No right shoulder patch) but from what I understood those OCP's we're only given out to those who have been deployed to the Middle East the last year or so. Can anyone clarify on this? Thank you.
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CPT Robert Boshears
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Now I go back to MACV, but a patch on the right sleeve was your unit, you were in combat, or assigned to in the combat theatre. But, he said he had never deployed. Look at his medals, look for the CAR, Combat Action Ribbon, which only the Marines and Navy received for being in combat. It wouldn't be fitting to call an NCO a liar until you knew everything. It is rare, but there (I heard only) was a Navy SEAL who got out and went to Army OCS. Infantry Officers with the CAR, with a Brigade Commander approving, used to be able to trade the CAR for a CIB.
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SPC Alpha Team First Squad
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They are phasing out the ACU version and the new uniform is the OCP.
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CPT(P) Miccc Student
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They're also given to any person that walks in a surplus store and pays for them. Who cares what uniform he's wearing, he's an NCO. Word of advice, don't get wrapped up in patches, badges, and uniforms. That stuff comes with doing your job and doing it well.
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It's an authorized uniform under AR 670-1. There is no such thing as a deployment uniform. The unit commander can authorize the wear of any authorized uniform in his command as long as it falls within the regulation. I would suggest that you get a copy of AR 670-1 so that you can educate yourself. This last sentence is a suggestion and not meant in any derogatory way.
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SrA Bruce Bustin
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If I may give my advice to you that I have to my son, 1. You have no political/personal opinions regarding the POTUS or our military. 2. NEVER attempt to show up or question those above you in rank or in your unit. It may come back to bite you later. That is not your job. 3. Just do YOUR JOB! Let others sort any other BS.
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SSgt Medic
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I'm just here for the comments, but yeah they're good to go to answer the question.
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SGT Human Resources Specialist
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Listen here son, go elevate your feet and stop worrying about things that have nothing to do with you. I will never understand why I see people spending so much time and emotion with these petty complaints. I bet you're in one of those units like I saw yesterday hanging out in their motor pool joking and smoking and riding hover boards around.
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Sgt Dale Briggs
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My sons AF attached to 2/2 Stryker, when he deploys he wears Army multi cams obviously, and. I thought he mentioned he could wear them on return for 30 days. Then back to ABUs.
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SFC Food Service Specialist
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He may have gotten them during CIF issue or RFI issue. I know a lot of Soldiers in Aviation that walk around with all sort of uniform they where issued and they want ever see the desert. If it's issued fuck it wear it. Shit cost to damn much anyways.
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SGT Michael Wade
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Well I don't believe in him wearing a deployment patch that he hasn't earned.. We were told we didn't get that honor till we were deployed and boots on ground for 30 days.. But then agian.. Anyone that's been deployed had watched the leadership pass out bronze stars too themselves and pat themselves on the back.. Well the lower enlisted get their Arcoms downgraded.. So I guess it's who ya know..
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SFC G2 Ops Mcp Ncoic
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Yes. He is. And it's way more comfortable than the new OCPs. In fact I might by buy some used ones, and I have deployed but deployed in FRACUs.
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1SG Aircraft Maintenance Technician
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FRACU or Flame Retardant Army Combat Uniform is authorized for wear in garrison per AR 670-1. There is no requirement to deploy to be authorized to wear. You can buy these through military clothing if you really want. However, I wouldn't waste my money on that.
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SFC Richard Giles
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Is this SGT your FLL? If he is there is a time and place for everything. If he is not the 1st place you need to go to is your FLL to ask questions like this.
Just some advice for you..... A crusty "Gunny" once told a long time ago don't put yourself in the spotlight for doing or saying things you know nothing about. But if you must have the spotlight on you make sure it is for a good reason.
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SGT Team Leader
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Why not just ask that Sargeant? He could have squared this question.
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CW3 Maintenance Technician
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Army Surplus store be my guess
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SPC Crew Chief
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In Germany we did a field rotation to Poland where all soldiers were issued ocp
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SGT Human Intelligence Collector
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Yes he can wear them. I remember being issued DCU's and then not deploying that year and then the very next year getting ACU's.

Also those other NCOs on this site trying to rip you a new one for asking questions is a prime example of how not to act when you are a leader
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SGT Recruiter
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This is a stupid question for a stupid reason. Get back to work.
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SSG Team Leader
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My question is Why the fuck is this Private asking this question about a NCO if it was wrong the squad leader or Platoon SGT would say something to the NCO this private needs to stay in their lane
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SGM Erik Marquez
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Its called trust but verify..And i have ZERO issue with the question being asked.. It shows a young SM looking to understand what right looks like.
So ask, research, decide and move on.
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I was supposed to deploy twice while in the 82nd. I drew RFI twice..... But even though I didn't deploy, after the new regs in july 15. We were able to wear our deployment gear when ever we wanted. We never got in trouble or asked why we wore them. If anybody questioned us, we showed them the regs.
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