Posted on Mar 31, 2017
SGT Aaron Olivas
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Time and time again, I see prior military members cut down and made fun of for telling their stories or reaching out. I am sure we have all seen comments such as "suck it up" , "my deployment was way harder" and other comments that un-validate their service. Can it be, that we ourselves are the biggest reason that there is a large amount of suicides in our community?
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LTC John Shaw
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SGT Aaron Olivas No one wants to appear weak with their peers and most of the time, we are able to adapt and adjust our way in life to keep our actions in check. We often hold ourselves to a high professional standard and PTS is just perceived as being broken/not resilient.
I believe many service members think they are OK and are confident they can handle whatever comes until they get into a dark place and see no way out. This means most the time they feel OK and accepted.
Service members judge quickly, we are trained to make a gut assessment and take action.
Our circumstances change quickly, the loss of joy based on loved ones and people we feel commitment and connected. The loss of integrity by breaking our word to someone or not meeting others expectations: family, friends, peers. The loss of financial or emotional support. The loss of hope that our future will be different.
This RP forum is great for support, but we also cast many stones, opinions and open conversation are a good thing. We need to encourage each other to share our experiences and find value in each one.
We must be able to just listen to our peers, brothers and sisters without judgement.
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SPC Nancy Greene
SPC Nancy Greene
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It takes a very Strong person to share such intimate stories.SGT Aaron Olivas
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LTC John Shaw
LTC John Shaw
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SPC Nancy Greene - Nancy, Thank you for the kind words. I think we will be challenged on the 'without judgement' portion of my appeal with the start of 2020, it will be a year of calling each other stupid names with the political silly season. We want to see the worst, when we really need to look for our best.
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SPC Nancy Greene
SPC Nancy Greene
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Definitely Agree Sir! Am going to send you a connect request as I am seeing legal advice for someone suffering and think your knowledge would prove to be invaluable.LTC John Shaw
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LTC John Shaw
LTC John Shaw
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SPC Nancy Greene - It has been a while since law school for me but I am happy to assist however I can.
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SMSgt Lawrence McCarter
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I feel its our fellow veterans We need to talk to and be able to express ourselves. All of us have different ways of dealing with things, that is the human factor but We need each others support. People all have to talk to someone and being able to talk and have other listen is a way to deal with problems or at least talk with people of a common background that may well understand. All of us stepped up to serve our country which is something a majority of People never did. I would never want to discourage any of My brothers or sister here of telling their stories and reaching out to their fellow Veterans. Learning You not alone out there can make quite a difference and reaching for support from Your peers and not getting it can never be good. We as Veterans need to support each other and know none of us are alone. Many Veterans would never even consider telling their story to a non Veteran, listen and don't be the one that didn't and maybe contributed to sending them over the edge. Please consider what I've said, thank You in advance.
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SSgt Robert Marx
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The words of a counselor can start the healing of a wounded soul, and the shared experience of combat or military duty helps to ensure understanding between people in discussion. Our words spoken, even without thought or hateful intent, can strike deep in the people within our circle. I hold it as an imperative to cause no harm with brothers.
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SPC Nancy Greene
SPC Nancy Greene
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Definitely Agree SMSgt!
As a Veteran and Survivor, I share in the hopes of encouraging others to share. I Advocate, in the Hopes of reducing the suicide rate among Veterans. Lack of proper diagnosis IS a MAJOR issue within the Department of VA services! Not to mention the lack of Professional Educational resources. Awesome courses at ECU, combined with MH crisis intervention Counselor helped me share my story on pick up on key signs of this type of Trauma. NEVER had a course in Grad School totally dedicated to THIS topic! Planning to address this issue and provide appropriate Education and Training at the Masters Degree level!
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SPC Nancy Greene
SPC Nancy Greene
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Would venture to say it ‘BLEW’ their minds.CPO Bill Penrod
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SPC Nancy Greene
SPC Nancy Greene
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Definitely Agree SSgt! SSgt Robert Marx
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MAJ Ken Landgren
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I believe a big problem is lack of empathy, understanding, and compassionate leadership. I have witnessed soldiers with severe PTSD ordered to the unit so they can be squeezed to do work even if they are going to day long group therapy.
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CPL Linda B.
CPL Linda B.
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I agree and for some of us veterans who have been forgotten about from before,( 9-11 ) it's very difficult.
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MAJ Ken Landgren
MAJ Ken Landgren
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The leadership inconsistency of units renders standards of care to have a wide range. I personally think we should work on unit leaders and offer assignments to WTBs for all who are med boarded to alleviate stress and allow the SMs to focus on treatment. I want to caveat this by saying many folks who work in WTBs should not work for the federal government or the military. They are rude and treat you like shit when you are down. I will use two examples. Ft Riley: An E-6 yelled at me “I fucking own you!” Ft Campbell: I had a GS-4 scream at me at the top of her lungs. I was deeply offended as I treated all soldiers with dignity and respect throughout my career. CPL Linda B.
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MAJ Ken Landgren
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There are people who will kick those who are down.
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