Posted on Oct 2, 2020
is it required to salute while in Army PT uniform?
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It's an official Army uniform, so yes. Especially if you recognize the other person in APFUs as an Officer.
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SSG(P) (Join to see)
MAJ Byron Oyler - Exactly. While in a reclass AIT, we MOS-Ts had to PT wearing the same color PT Belts as the IET kids. One dark morning, a few of us NCOs who were walkers were doing PT and got passed by a IET formation. One of the Drill Sergeants said something to one of the SGTs in our group, who responded with "I'm not in your company." Looking like an IET Soldier, he got shark-attacked by three Senior NCOs. The rest of us had to defuse the situation using our ID Cards, and explanations of who we were and who our organization was. After that, we would swap out our issued PT Belts with green ones after the formation broke.
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SGT Dave Tracy that's how it was during my time in 1st AD. Yellow for junior enlisted, green for NCOs, and blue for officers.
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LTC (Join to see)
1LT (Join to see) - I was once saluted by a KATUSA Private while using the urinal. KBSC on Youngsan during Key Resolve. Kid stood there holding a salute until I finished my business and had a free hand to return it.
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LTC (Join to see) - Ummmm......I want to laugh at this and I want to shake my head at the same time.
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MAJ Byron Oyler
Maybe he is putting the question out there because other people need to hear the answer and a culture needs to change somewhere.
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CPT Derek Wren
I thought the same thing when I saw the post. I’m hoping that he is asking on behalf of someone else, if not I don’t know how in the world you manage to become a senior NCO and never once got corrected and or taught to render a resolute which would be part of maintaining your military bearing while in your PT uniform LOL.
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I saw a situation where a CPT in BDUs called out a Soldier in PTs for not salutng him. Turned out that the PT uniform was a MAJ.
However, if you know that someone is an officer, regardless of what uniform either is wearing, and you are not an officer, then yes, you should salute
However, if you know that someone is an officer, regardless of what uniform either is wearing, and you are not an officer, then yes, you should salute
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LTC (Join to see)
I was at the MP station after PT one morning as a 1LT and a SGM comes in. PVT Snuffy at the desk yells out "at ease". I'm thinking WTF because PVT Snuffy knows I'm an officer. So I just keep going about my business and SGM loses his shit. Starts yelling at me, disrespect blah blah blah. I let him go on for about 45 seconds before I interrupted him with, I'm sorry SGM, but the last time I checked officers don't stand at ease for NCOs. the look on his face was priceless as he stammered out an apology. The look on PVT Snuffy's face was even better when SGM tore him a new one. That was 15 years ago and PVT Snuffy is probably still getting smoked.
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Army is weird.....when I was in the Marines, we only saluted when wearing a cover (pc, etc), to include for colors and such. After about a week in the Army, I was asked if I was unpatriotic or something because I didn't salute the flag in pts during colors...
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CW2 (Join to see)
It happens to the best of us. I remember looking around thinking “okay, this is new…”. Haha
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And this is why we now have everyone with more than one stripe putting rank insignia on PT Belts.
Which, by the way is unauthorized:
"10–10. Insignia
The only insignia authorized for wear on the APFU is the physical fitness badge. When the physical fitness badge is worn, it is sewn on the wearer’s upper left front side of the APFU t-shirt above the word “Army.” On the APFU running jacket, the insignia is sewn centered and 1/2 inch above the Army logo. See AR 600–8–22 for criteria for wearing the physical fitness badge."
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Which, by the way is unauthorized:
"10–10. Insignia
The only insignia authorized for wear on the APFU is the physical fitness badge. When the physical fitness badge is worn, it is sewn on the wearer’s upper left front side of the APFU t-shirt above the word “Army.” On the APFU running jacket, the insignia is sewn centered and 1/2 inch above the Army logo. See AR 600–8–22 for criteria for wearing the physical fitness badge."
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CW4 Keith Dolliver
MAJ Samuel Weber - You're right... guarantee it was a CSM. To play devil's advocate though, at the end of the day it's the CDR's unit, not the CSM's. If the CDR lets the CSM get away with that action then the blame is two-fold.
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MAJ Samuel Weber - few and far between are the officers that care enough about being saluted to want it while in PTs.
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You just said it, in uniform. A uniform is just that. If you know the individual is an officer, salute away
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When I was serving there was no such thing but I would guess since it is a prescribed uniform and a salute is prescribed for a salute when in uniform.
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I swear some of the questions on here at times make me wonder if they’re just put to be humorous or if the person(s) are serious.
When the question itself asks if you salute while in a PT uniform, with a MASSIVE freaking emphasis on uniform, i’m not even sure how you finish the question quite frankly. It is a authorized uniform, therefore you Conduct yourself just as you would any other time that you were in uniform. You salute in your dress uniform, your battle dress uniform, your PT uniform, and or any other authorized military uniform period. That’s a very simple concept that an E-1 should be able to answer, let alone anyone else that’s served in the military more than a day.
I will say however that in the event you are jogging or pass up a person that you do not know to be an officer you cannot be expected to just know who the hell they are, but for Pete’s sake if you know that they are in your chain of command, whether it be at the company level or all the way to brigade and above then render a salute. How does the old saying go, when in doubt whip it out, and not like some people are thinking and laughing right now LOL.
Personally as an officer, I never stopped someone in the event that we were conducting PT and they did not render a salute because for the most part I would rather you be pushing yourself and completing the physical activity that you were doing I am looking like a crazy person all over the place trying to salute or figure out if you’re supposed to. Other officers not so much, or if they have a PT belt on and you were able to see the name and or rank than that is very self-explanatory.
When the question itself asks if you salute while in a PT uniform, with a MASSIVE freaking emphasis on uniform, i’m not even sure how you finish the question quite frankly. It is a authorized uniform, therefore you Conduct yourself just as you would any other time that you were in uniform. You salute in your dress uniform, your battle dress uniform, your PT uniform, and or any other authorized military uniform period. That’s a very simple concept that an E-1 should be able to answer, let alone anyone else that’s served in the military more than a day.
I will say however that in the event you are jogging or pass up a person that you do not know to be an officer you cannot be expected to just know who the hell they are, but for Pete’s sake if you know that they are in your chain of command, whether it be at the company level or all the way to brigade and above then render a salute. How does the old saying go, when in doubt whip it out, and not like some people are thinking and laughing right now LOL.
Personally as an officer, I never stopped someone in the event that we were conducting PT and they did not render a salute because for the most part I would rather you be pushing yourself and completing the physical activity that you were doing I am looking like a crazy person all over the place trying to salute or figure out if you’re supposed to. Other officers not so much, or if they have a PT belt on and you were able to see the name and or rank than that is very self-explanatory.
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I believe it depends, I’m not sure if it’s just our policy or if it’s a reg. But from what I understand, yes you salute in PTs, however if you are actively engaged in group pt you do not render a salute.
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