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OK for all the salute threads here on rallypoint, I really want to understand why there is so much discussion? They all ask should it happen, not does it happen. The answer is clear per TC 3-25.1 Appendix A paragraph A-1.
A-1. WHEN TO SALUTE
Army personnel in uniform are required to salute when they meet and recognize persons
entitled (by grade) to a salute except when it is inappropriate or impractical (in public
conveyances such as planes and buses, in public places such as inside theaters, or when
driving a vehicle).
a. A salute is also rendered—
• When the United States National Anthem, “To the Color,” “Hail to the Chief,” or
foreign national anthems are played.
• To uncased National Color outdoors.
• On ceremonial occasions as prescribed in Part Two, Ceremonies.
• At reveille and retreat ceremonies, during the raising or lowering of the flag.
• During the sounding of honors.
• When the Pledge of Allegiance to the U.S. flag is being recited outdoors.
• When turning over control of formations.
• When rendering reports.
• To officers of friendly foreign countries.
b. Salutes are not required when—
• Indoors, except when reporting to an officer or when on duty as a guard.
• Addressing a prisoner.
• Saluting is obviously inappropriate. In these cases, only greetings are exchanged.
(Example 1: A person carrying articles with both hands, or being otherwise so
occupied as to make saluting impracticable, is not required to salute a senior
person or return the salute to a subordinate.)
• Either the senior or the subordinate is wearing civilian clothes.
c. In any case not covered by specific instructions, the salute is rendered.
A-1. WHEN TO SALUTE
Army personnel in uniform are required to salute when they meet and recognize persons
entitled (by grade) to a salute except when it is inappropriate or impractical (in public
conveyances such as planes and buses, in public places such as inside theaters, or when
driving a vehicle).
a. A salute is also rendered—
• When the United States National Anthem, “To the Color,” “Hail to the Chief,” or
foreign national anthems are played.
• To uncased National Color outdoors.
• On ceremonial occasions as prescribed in Part Two, Ceremonies.
• At reveille and retreat ceremonies, during the raising or lowering of the flag.
• During the sounding of honors.
• When the Pledge of Allegiance to the U.S. flag is being recited outdoors.
• When turning over control of formations.
• When rendering reports.
• To officers of friendly foreign countries.
b. Salutes are not required when—
• Indoors, except when reporting to an officer or when on duty as a guard.
• Addressing a prisoner.
• Saluting is obviously inappropriate. In these cases, only greetings are exchanged.
(Example 1: A person carrying articles with both hands, or being otherwise so
occupied as to make saluting impracticable, is not required to salute a senior
person or return the salute to a subordinate.)
• Either the senior or the subordinate is wearing civilian clothes.
c. In any case not covered by specific instructions, the salute is rendered.
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I have seen saluting from both sides of the fence.
In bootcamp, you hardly ever see an officer and there's an aura of mystique about them... They are the college educated "smart guys" that tell your drill instructors what they can and can't do and they write their fitness reports. So as much as you respect your drill instructors, they are above them. And you are required to salute officers in your general orders for sentries. I've seen some motivated troops cross the street just so they could salute an officer and I've seen others cross the street just to avoid doing it. The best Marines did neither.
Saluting is a sign of respect; it's a courtesy you give to officers and acknowledges them. As an enlisted person it is your job to iniitiate the salute and the officers in turn are required to return the salute. If they fail to return it, they are even more in the wrong because they should know better. Their returning of the salute is them returning the respect and it is their way of acknowledging the person who saluted them.
When I was a troop, I got chewed a couple times for not giving an officer a salute (by the officer whose collar I couldn't make out). It had nothing to do with me not wanting to acknowledge them. I just didn't see their collar or I estimated them to be farther than 20 paces away. In my estimation the officers doing the chewing were full of themselves, or couldn't count paces. One even chewed me for not saying "By your leave Sir", when I walked past from behind but I didn't have X-Ray vision couldn't see his rank as I passed. Usually you could spot an officer because they carried themselves differently, and you didn't have to see the rank, but in any event, I took my A$$chewings in stride and never made excuses... and then made a mental note that if I ever was an officer I wouldn't be like them.
As an officer, I used to chuckle when troops would go out of their way to salute but I never discouraged them. I might let them know that it wasn't necessary to cross the street or whatever just to salute, but I thanked them for their effort and told them to carry on. On a couple of occasions I did chew someone for not saluting because I could see that they saw me and saw their eyes look at my collar. I would have been in the wrong for allowing them to not salute and get away with it. And there were times when I didn't see a troop salute me and missed returning their salute -- especially when a salute is performed late or when you are driving and you don't have enough time to return it. It happens. Officers put their pants on the same way, and they're human too.
So in conclusion, saluting is not a way of making the enlisted show respect that isn't deserved. It is not demeaning. It is simply a courtesy rendered and means of giving respect that gets the same courtesy and respect returned.
In bootcamp, you hardly ever see an officer and there's an aura of mystique about them... They are the college educated "smart guys" that tell your drill instructors what they can and can't do and they write their fitness reports. So as much as you respect your drill instructors, they are above them. And you are required to salute officers in your general orders for sentries. I've seen some motivated troops cross the street just so they could salute an officer and I've seen others cross the street just to avoid doing it. The best Marines did neither.
Saluting is a sign of respect; it's a courtesy you give to officers and acknowledges them. As an enlisted person it is your job to iniitiate the salute and the officers in turn are required to return the salute. If they fail to return it, they are even more in the wrong because they should know better. Their returning of the salute is them returning the respect and it is their way of acknowledging the person who saluted them.
When I was a troop, I got chewed a couple times for not giving an officer a salute (by the officer whose collar I couldn't make out). It had nothing to do with me not wanting to acknowledge them. I just didn't see their collar or I estimated them to be farther than 20 paces away. In my estimation the officers doing the chewing were full of themselves, or couldn't count paces. One even chewed me for not saying "By your leave Sir", when I walked past from behind but I didn't have X-Ray vision couldn't see his rank as I passed. Usually you could spot an officer because they carried themselves differently, and you didn't have to see the rank, but in any event, I took my A$$chewings in stride and never made excuses... and then made a mental note that if I ever was an officer I wouldn't be like them.
As an officer, I used to chuckle when troops would go out of their way to salute but I never discouraged them. I might let them know that it wasn't necessary to cross the street or whatever just to salute, but I thanked them for their effort and told them to carry on. On a couple of occasions I did chew someone for not saluting because I could see that they saw me and saw their eyes look at my collar. I would have been in the wrong for allowing them to not salute and get away with it. And there were times when I didn't see a troop salute me and missed returning their salute -- especially when a salute is performed late or when you are driving and you don't have enough time to return it. It happens. Officers put their pants on the same way, and they're human too.
So in conclusion, saluting is not a way of making the enlisted show respect that isn't deserved. It is not demeaning. It is simply a courtesy rendered and means of giving respect that gets the same courtesy and respect returned.
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CDR Michael Goldschmidt
Nice summary, Captain. This discussion may have its genesis in another about Lieutenants saluting another. Regulation may be standard, but custom varies greatly from service to service and community to community. Do ground Marine O-1s salute O-2s? What about air wingers? (You're off the hook for not returning salutes while driving. In naval regs, at least, safety trumps custom.)
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What should my new thread be? Should it be wear in regulations does it mention saluting Medal of Honor recipients?
http://www.truthorfiction.com/rumors/o/obama-medal-of-honor.htm#.U6IMu2dOWM8
http://www.truthorfiction.com/rumors/o/obama-medal-of-honor.htm#.U6IMu2dOWM8
Why No Salute By Obama At Medal Of Honor Ceremony?-Commentary!
This is a forwarded article written by Rees Lloyd that asks why President Obama did not salute U.S. Army Staff Sergeant Salvatore Giunta after decorating him with the Medal of Honor.
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Maybe. But it could also be about WHERE in regulations does it mention saluting MOH recipients? And to answer it here so you don't have to start another thread Sir, it is not mandatory to render a salute to a MOH recipient, but it is authorized.
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Saluting, although not required by law or military regulation, members of the uniformed services are encouraged to render salutes to recipients of the Medal of Honor as a matter of respect and courtesy regardless of rank or status.
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Saluting, although not required by law or military regulation, members of the uniformed services are encouraged to render salutes to recipients of the Medal of Honor as a matter of respect and courtesy regardless of rank or status.
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CPT Maurelli, you should ask such a question. There is obviously different opinions on this topic.
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Come on now SFC Gilley, let's not try to over simplify an obviously difficult concept!!!
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